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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; Kolokotronis
The Septuagint says "There was a certain man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was true, blameless, righteous, and godly, abstaining from everything evil"

Abstaining from everything evil is pretty much "perfect," FK.

I just wanted to clarify that you thought that Job was sinless, despite the crystal-clear scripture that BD gave us in his 4775. That now makes three besides Jesus, in your view, who were sinless, Mary, John the Baptist, and now Job. Do the scriptures or Tradition tell you how Job arrived at his sinlessness? IIRC, your view was that Mary received special grace at around age 3, while JTB received special grace in the womb.

4,824 posted on 04/19/2006 3:09:51 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper

Just reading along, marking my place, staying quietly in the backgroung......

Proceed please.


4,828 posted on 04/19/2006 4:05:41 PM PDT by colorcountry (Don't bother me,.... I'm living happily ever after.)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Kolokotronis
I just wanted to clarify that you thought that Job was sinless, despite the crystal-clear scripture that BD gave us in his 4775

FK, what does Job 1:1 say? It says that Job was a perfect man, or words implying the same. The Scripture does not say Job was perfect, but that Job was a perfect man, within constraints of humanity. We don't say God is a perfect God; His perfection is His essence -- He is Perfection. no one is comparing Job's perfection or BEV Mary's perfection with God's!

Now, why does the Scripture then say, later on, that Job was not such a perfect man after all, that I leave to those who can rationalize everything in the Bible.

Likewise, +Paul clearly states that none is perfect, not one (human), and Job 1:1 says that Job was a perfect (hu)man. I leave that discrepancy to you rationalizers as well. If you don't mind, that is.

The reason why it is a rationalization is because it is an answer that is made up to bring apparently contradicting stories in the Bible into a "meaningful agreement," but is not something self-evident or set in stone any more than Aristotle's "explanation" of gravity was.

As for the rest of your post: I never said Theotokos received special grace at the age of 3. I would never, ever, delve into such a speculation! I also never said that +John the Baptist was a perfect man. Blessed, yes, perfect no. But I don't recall mentioning +John The Baptist at all.

4,834 posted on 04/19/2006 6:15:47 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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