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To: kosta50
FK: "I know it sounds very harsh from me when I say that I don't think God loves us all equally."

Well, it's not only harsh, but it's nothing what Jesus taught. God does not hate His creation.

No, God does not hate His creation. What I haven't heard from you is how, if God loves us equally, is it that some are saved and some are lost? Doesn't God have the power to arrange anything He wants? Is God "loving" us by watching some reject Him and go to hell? If I ever loved my kids like that I would rightfully be arrested for child abuse.

So, then, can Love hate? Can absolute and pure Love find room for evil? Can pure Love return evil with evil? No! Because God is unchanging. So love is then always love.

Apparently, to you love CAN hate! God loves us all, is omnipotent, and yet does nothing for those who reject Him. You call that love. You're making my point for me.

I know, the Bible babblers will quote a passage where it says that God hated. Again, reading the Bible "cold" (literally) is just that. It leads to error. ... It's for simple minds.

Yes, us simple-minded Bible babblers will tend to do that, quote the Bible. Shame on us, I know. Sometimes, we even go so far as to accept the actual words in the Bible, and not trust someone else to interpret them out of existence. Silly us again. That Bible thingy just can't be trusted until your leaders give me my view of it. But, Hey wait a minute. You don't even trust Catholic leaders to give you your opinion. That's why you don't have unity, and this could not have been over a trivial matter. Is the Church hierarchy infallible or not? Apparently, you would say 'NO' as to Catholics.

2,368 posted on 02/08/2006 3:50:47 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Gamecock; Cronos; annalex; HarleyD
What I haven't heard from you is how, if God loves us equally, is it that some are saved and some are lost? Doesn't God have the power to arrange anything He wants?

First, you heard from me how is it that some are saved and some are lost if God loves us all. You ignored it. Love does not exist without respect. I know that it is completely impossible for you, and your Pharisaical minds, to comprehend that the omnipotent God can and does respect our decisions, our free will, because He willed it so from the beginning, because perfect love comes with perfect respect, because it is impossible to love somone without respecting the same individual.

So, only some are saved even though God loves us all, even though Jesus died for all. To an Orthodox and Roman Catholic, that makes perfect sense. To you that is a paradox. I will leave it at that.

Second, the Protestants, like Muslims, deny free will. You see God as someone Who has to assert His importance by being stronger than we are, to show who's boss, to be in charge. Christ showed us that God is nothing like that. God wins us over by love and even respect for our sillyness and foolish pride.

2,383 posted on 02/08/2006 2:47:27 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Cronos; annalex; HarleyD
God loves us all, is omnipotent, and yet does nothing for those who reject Him

That is what the Apostolic Church teaches correctly. So, if you meet a woman, date her, fall in love with her and wish to marry her, but she rejects you and opts some formone who will be her ruin — what is then your move, to force yourself on her because you lover her?! If you really love her, you let her go. If she comes back, she is yours; if she doesn't she never was.

But that's not what you believe, so no wonder you can't understand it. What you believe is that God created some to go to hell and others to go to heaven (why even call them "saved"?!?). There is no love in any of that. Those who were created by God to go to heaven or hell have done absolutely nothing that God didn't want them to do, yet He sends some to hell (for the heck of it I suppose)! Like I said, Jesus Christ taught nothing of the sort. Christ won by love, not by force.

2,384 posted on 02/08/2006 3:28:53 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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