FK I was using generic names. It was not personal, trust me. :-)
I was talking about man's free will thwarting God's plan
Just how can man's free will, or for that matter anything man does thwart God's plan? Isn't it God's will for man to be, and to be free, rational, moral being, in His image and likeness?
How are those who abuse their will thwart God's plan, FK? Is the train to heaven going to be late? Is no one going to be saved? The only thing we accompolish when we oppose and reject God is foolishly choose evil and thwart our humanity.
If my goal is to give every homeless person $1,000,000 and some of them spend it foolishly and end up being as broke as they were before, whose fault is that?
No offense taken. :)
Just how can man's free will, or for that matter anything man does thwart God's plan? Isn't it God's will for man to be, and to be free, rational, moral being, in His image and likeness? How are those who abuse their will thwart God's plan, FK?
Actually, I was challenging you because I thought that's what you are saying. I don't think there is anything we can do to thwart God's plan. (Each person among the elect is touched and saved, and each person not of the elect is passed over and not saved.) I thought that through your belief in man's free will, that man frequently chooses against what God wants, as you would say, all to be saved. Since all are not saved, God does not get what He wants because of man's free will.
If my goal is to give every homeless person $1,000,000 and some of them spend it foolishly and end up being as broke as they were before, whose fault is that?
It is YOUR fault if you loved them! If you truly loved them you would have found out what their needs were, as well as their abilities to deal with money, their levels of responsibility, etc. If these were suspect you would have set up trusts with specific provisions. You would have done this to protect the homeless person against himself. I think God does that for us. I don't think He gives us grace and then walks away, waiting to see what happens. I believe God takes an active role in bringing His elect home to Him.