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To: sionnsar; starfish923; Kolokotronis

There have been no unions or establishment of communion of any Orthodox Church with the Roman Catholic church.

Relations between the Church of Russia and the Roman Catholic church has been the worst (most prominently because of the problems left over from the Unia), so their poor relations with Rome get more attention. But the entire Orthodox Church is united on this issue of not being in communion with Rome.

Many of us Orthodox are cautiously optimistic about B16's prospects. He is more capable of speaking our language than JPII ever was. This may be because he is simply smarter than JPII, but I think that he is genuinely influenced by patristic thought in a way that JPII was not.

I like the guy, and hope he is capable of restoring Rome to patristic thought and praxis.


5 posted on 12/02/2005 10:35:49 AM PST by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian; sionnsar; starfish923

Took the words right out of my mouth, A!


6 posted on 12/02/2005 11:19:05 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Agrarian; sionnsar; Kolokotronis
There have been no unions or establishment of communion of any Orthodox Church with the Roman Catholic church.
Relations between the Church of Russia and the Roman Catholic church has been the worst (most prominently because of the problems left over from the Unia), so their poor relations with Rome get more attention. But the entire Orthodox Church is united on this issue of not being in communion with Rome.
He and other pastors DO get diocese updates from Rome on what is going on in the religious world.
Many of us Orthodox are cautiously optimistic about B16's prospects. He is more capable of speaking our language than JPII ever was. This may be because he is simply smarter than JPII, but I think that he is genuinely influenced by patristic thought in a way that JPII was not.
I like the guy, and hope he is capable of restoring Rome to patristic thought and praxis.

Just last week our pastor was saying that Roman Catholics and all Orthodoxy (except Russian) DO have interchangeable holy communion -- both ways. THAT is considered "union" of a very important kind, I believe.
I would believe my pastor over you, sorry. He is a most educated man who stays abreast of these things.
I would NOT have brought it up unless I had heard it because I wouldn't have any real idea myself of the state of holy communion interchange.

9 posted on 12/02/2005 7:42:38 PM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Agrarian
He is more capable of speaking our language than JPII ever as.

Is there anything else, sir? How may I serve you? Or would you like to talk to the Pope in the kitchen? I'm sure he would be most happy to prepare whatever you want, sir. (/sarcasm)

History: When Protestants were smashing Catholic monasteries (over 15,000 of them), and Lutherans were threatening to "eat the pope" and Henry VIII was plotting to kill the brilliant Thomas More, the Orthodox foolishly sided with Suleiman the Magnificent and his 120,000 Muslims who marched through Europe to crush Catholic Austria in 1529.
14 posted on 12/02/2005 8:43:47 PM PST by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. Robert Louis Stevenson)
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