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To: JohnRoss; Kolokotronis
JR, you just wasted an awful lot of bandwidth and left out Canon XXVIII of the Council of Chalcedon and how it dismissed the Great Pope Leo I -- starting with the Emperor, the Empress, the Bishop of Constantinople, and all the way down to the Latin Illyrian bishops.

Just as with the Council before that one, eventually some Pope recognized it. The fact that the Popes had to remind everyone of their great power they claimed they were given is indicative that the rest of the Church did not share their opinion. I mean, where does the Queen of England constantly remind her subjects that she is the Queen and the head of the church there and that she must be obeyed? No need for that. Everyone knows it and accepts it.

I am so sick of reading about the Papal Supremacy as a historical "fact" this that I am seriously considering becoming Protestant!

The bottom line is this: our faiths are not the same. This is not an Old Believer or some Traditionalist Orthodox invention -- it's a fact. The Latin Church started with he Filioque and once it got off the train it went off in the other direction. Period. Until and if ever our faiths are restored (by the Latin side returning to the theology of the Undivided Church) the rest of the issues -- such as intercommunion, the Creed, and papacy will disappear as obstacles. We cannot be in communion with those whose faith involves inventions and innovations unknown to the Church of the first millennium.

Kolo, you can continue this exercise in futility. I think enough has been said.

31 posted on 10/11/2005 4:49:43 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis
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35 posted on 10/11/2005 12:55:03 PM PDT by MarMema
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