Sept. 8th(16 B.C.) The Birthday of Mary,the Mother of Jesus

Mary was born fifteen years,three months and seventeen days before the birth of Jesus. She was born in a house in which,fourteen years,six months and seventeen days later,the Archangel Gabriel,sent by God,would come and kneel before her and with a bowed head would say, "Hail,full of grace,the Lord is with thee." Mary was three years,two months and thirteen days old when she was presented by her parents to GOD in the Temple. She was fourteen years old when she was espoused to Joseph ANd she was fourteen years,four months and fifteen day old when her espousals to Saint Jpseph were solemnized. She was in her forty-eighth year when Jesus suffered the Passion and death on the cross,and Jesus gave her to John and to all the Faithful as their own Mother!-when Jesus and rose from the dead,and ascended into Heaven,in the year 33. MAry was seventy-two years old when she herself,died and was three days later assumed into Heaven ,in the year 58. Mary has the compassionate heart of a good Mother. She hears those who ask her for help and she leads them on to Jesus. She knows well, all about suffering,sorrow,joy, fear,love and war. please take one second of your time Sept.8th-and wish the Mother of Jesus a Happy Birthday! Ask her to help those at Katrina,at Iraq,in your own life and those of your families,and learn how to say the rosary,and wear the brown scapular.

Having said that, there is even less revelation from God about the birth date of Mary.

This is an absurd statement. There isn't any revelation at all regarding the birth date of Christ. How can there be less than zero?

Tradition has established that date, but it certainly does not match the Biblical narrative.

So if you celebrate Christmas on December 25th, you're demonstrating that Tradition is relevant to the way in which you celebrate Christianity. I thought it was Sola Scriptura for Protestants. This can't be!

I'll ask again. Do you recognize the Sabbath (the Lord's day) as Saturday or Sunday? Because that's another "pesky" tradition that Protestants happily embrace, despite the fact that, biblically speaking, the Lord God made the seventh day, Saturday, the Sabbath, which practicing Jews (and 7th Day Adventists) still recognize. It was the Catholic Church which determined that the significance of Christ's Resurrection on Sunday implied a NEW creation which came full circle on that day in the conquest of death. It's not in the Bible. It's Catholic exegesis. And it's the day the vast majority of Christians agree to worship on.

Additionally, you've relied on Catholic tradition to guarantee the veracity of the four Gospels. Dozens were written in the years and decades following the Ascension of Christ. It was the Catholic Church, weeding out the errors of gnosticism and other heresies which violated accepted TRADITION of the nascent Catholic faith that determined the inerrancy of the "inspired" Gospels. The Church didn't rely on supporting texts to determine what Gospels were inspired and which weren't. It was oral and ritual tradition which served as guide posts since these were the rituals and teaching passed from Christ to the Apostles to the great Evangelizers of that time. So the Gospels, themselves, are beholden to Tradition to support their own claims of inspiration. Otherwise, let's face it, you could be reading the wrong four Gospels out of the dozens that were penned. You have no basis to believe that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were inspired by God if you do not accept the importance of Tradition. And who made that distinction but the Catholic Church, guided by the Holy Spirit?

I believe that Y'shua was resurrected on the feast of first fruits

There has always been controversy regarding this question: When was the Feast of First Fruits? Many folks will agree with you. Thankfully, an error made here, should not affect our salvation.

Leviticus 23:9-11, "The Lord says to Moses. Speak to the Israelites and say to them: When you enter the land I am going to give to you and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain you harvest. He is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath." Which Sabbath is he speaking of? The Sabbath previously spoken of in scripture was the 2nd Sabbath of Unleavened Bread (verse 8). Prior to that was the 1st Sabbath of Unleavened bread (verse 7)....the day after Passover, and prior to that was the weekly Sabbath (verse 3).

I have always felt that the 1st Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was the Sabbath the Lord was referring to. My reasoning for this was the fact that the celebration itself, prior to the wave offering, was the seven day festival with a Sabbath beginning and a Sabbath ending the week. My instinct tells me that the first Sabbath would have priority because it begins the celebration after Passover. Passover would the 14th of Nisan, the 1st Sabbath would be the 15th of Nisan and the Feast of Firstfruits would have fallen on the 16th. In my example given in post #11 this would have been the same day that Mary Magdalene and her companion, Salome, (Mark 16:1) bought the spices. It would have been O.K. to shop on the 16th because the Feast of Firstfruits was not a Sabbath. It would have begun at sunset Thursday evening and ended at sunset Friday evening, at which time the weekly Sabbath would have begun.

Josephus, in his Antiquities Of The Jews outlines in Book III, Chapter 10, verses 5 through 7 the same thing. He states that the Firstfruits always were waved by the priest after the 1st Sabbath of Unleavened Bread, i.e. the 16th of Nisan....he refers to it as the second day of Unleavened Bread. Passover, on the 14th, was never considered part of the festival.

If our Lord had been placed in the tomb shortly before sunset on Passover (Wednesday) as scripture reads, then he would have come out of the tomb 72 hours later (Saturday) on the weekly Sabbath.....shortly before sunset. A Feast of Firstfruits resurrection would have him in the tomb only 48 hours. In this scenario the women could not have purchased spices after the Sabbath and then rested again for the Sabbath after preparing them. (Luke 23:56 and Mark 16:1.

You state that it would be the Sabbath after Passover and it would always be a Sunday. Passover (Leviticus 23:5) always occurs on the 14th of Nisan, the first month. Since it occurs on the same date it comes on a different day of the week every year.....so in my example the Sabbath following Passover and the Sabbath always following Passover is the 1st Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

A si said it would be good for you to go to the website www.Catholism.org

Believeing..when a child in the Catholic is learning the first of the prayers taught along with the I believe in God,the Hail Mary,the Our Father...are the ACTS of Faith ,Hope and Charity..
The Act of FAITH
O my God! I firmly believe that Thou art one God in three Divine persons,the Father ,the Son and the Holy Ghost; I believe that Thy Divine Son became man and died for our sins and that he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe these and all the TRUTHS which the Holy Catholic Church teaches,because Thou hast revealed them, who canst neither deceive nor be deceived AMEN
Thus not believeing in more then the Bible is not the whole religion of the Catholic Faith..the Bible is the Word of God,AND the saints were those who came afterwards to this very day who loved Jesus and His Mother and His Church and follow His Commandments. It did not end with the Bible..it continues...from the Apostles to the pope to the Catholic Church and its teachings.

I will go that website. Thanks.

You mention acts of charity. I may get criticized for this, but I honestly believe that some of the most generous and charitable people in the world are those self-less and giving Catholics nuns and monks. I have seen some their work in orphanages in India when I visited. Three orphanages come to mind: one in Chennai/Madras (on St Thomas Mount), one in Tirapatur, and one in Bangalore. These are run by different orders of nuns. The one in Bangalore is from the Missionaries of Charity, which was Mother Teresa's order. In all cases, I saw the orphanages were clean and well-kept. The nuns treated the children well, even the disabled ones that had been abandoned by their families. I was really impressed, especially in contrast to the terrible conditions of orphanages in Romania which were shown on the tv at the time.

I have a sponsor gran through Help The Aged in a senior's home in Sri Lanka. This home is run by the Little Sisters of the Poor. They also do a marvellous work. This home, luckily, escaped the tsunami, but took in 200 families temporarily. I just got a letter from the nuns and they are still helping out some local families.

These nuns and monks do their charity works quietly, without any honour given to them, but I believe they will be given the title "good and faithful servants" on the day of judgment.

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