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Strange, but true: the lack of Scripture reading in evangelical worship
<strike>Wannabe</strike> Newbie Anglican ^ | 8/22/2005 | Mark Marshall

Posted on 08/22/2005 6:26:33 PM PDT by sionnsar

As this piece points out, the churches where you are least likely to hear Scripture read during services are often those where the authority and teaching of Scripture are most emphasized, particularly evangelical churches. Strange, but true. And the writer’s experience is that even Anglican evangelical churches often read Scripture in their worship less.

My personal experience as one with a evangelical/fundamentalist background? My current REC church is the first of my church homes where Scripture is regularly read during services outside the context of the sermon.

I think this is one way is which evangelical-style worship impoverishes itself. As I’ve experienced first hand, there is a power to formally reading the raw word of God in worship. I'd much rather sit and listen to the reading of Scripture than sing one more “praise and worship” song. And Scripture reading is a prominent feature of Jewish and Christian worship through the centuries. Why cut oneself off from that?

Yes, I greatly value the role of Lector, of reading the Scripture lessons aloud during services.

My reading duties begin this Sunday.


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[I hesitate to post this, because I think there is an unnecessary "division" here; the 'evangelicals' I know spend a significant time in the Bible *outside* of church, but here's an opportunity to speak out, and maybe some of you will click through and respond on the blog... --sionnsar]
1 posted on 08/22/2005 6:26:35 PM PDT by sionnsar
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To: sionnsar

I was in a protestant church yesterday for a service (dedication of my grand-daughter) and I was flabberghasted that there were no Biblical readings! Only references during the sermon.


2 posted on 08/22/2005 7:13:18 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sionnsar

INTREP


3 posted on 08/22/2005 10:12:54 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: sionnsar

This does not surprise me in the least. The Pastor usually reads a small portion of scripture as his "text" and then that is it. He then goes into his sermon and most of the time it has little to do with the reading. It is rather sad. At least this is my experience with Churches.


4 posted on 08/22/2005 10:17:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: Salvation
***I was in a protestant church yesterday for a service (dedication of my grand-daughter) and I was flabberghasted that there were no Biblical readings! Only references during the sermon.***

The Bible has the power to change lives.

It is no surprise that the devil slowly and by stages moves people away from reading it.

Do you ever just sit down in a chair and quietly read the Bible for extended periods? If not you should try it.
5 posted on 08/22/2005 10:58:49 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Salvation; Wrigley; Alex Murphy; Frumanchu; irishtenor; rwfromkansas; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; rdb3; ...
I was in a protestant church yesterday for a service (dedication of my grand-daughter) and I was flabberghasted that there were no Biblical readings! Only references during the sermon.

Sigh. If you have lurked around any of the Proddie threads you will know that the Calvinists are staunchly opposed to the "Seeker Sensitive" movement that is occurring in a large part of the Evangelical church today.

These churches are selling their souls in order to make people feel welcome. The thought is that if these churches use business models, bring in the Doctrine of Oprah instead of the Gospel of Christ, church growth will occur. And as we all know, in the American mind set, size matters.

On the flip side, traditional Proddies have become more interested in a social Gospel than Christ, it is no wonder that the traditional Protestant churches are losing members by the busload.

Never mind if churches preached sin, and restoration to God through the atoning death of Christ, people would beat down their doors like heroin addicts at a methadone clinic. That message is being preached in some churches, and those churches are growing solid, Biblical Christians.

Others, like the Arminian Cathedral to Health, Wealth, and Prosperity found in Houston Texas is growing a lot of briers, IMHO.

6 posted on 08/23/2005 1:11:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them on a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: ladyinred

You are cordially invited to post 6.

GC


7 posted on 08/23/2005 1:12:21 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them on a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: Gamecock

I actually heard someone say that Osteen was the next Billy Graham.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 1:19:38 AM PDT by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: sionnsar

Our worship begins with a "Call to Worship(a reading usually from Psalms or Isaiah), and we usually have a OT reading and a NT reading sometime during the worship. The sermon text is prayed for before being read, and the benediction is from scripture. I would say that we hold fast to the importance of scripture in our services.


9 posted on 08/23/2005 1:34:24 AM PDT by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: irishtenor
I actually heard someone say that Osteen was the next Billy Graham.

I'm not surprised. Our nation is full of folks who have itchy ears and are willing to offer up strange fire. Our country will receive the judgment that we deserve.

10 posted on 08/23/2005 2:21:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them on a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: Gamecock

Did you see any of the recent articles about him? He seemed quite pleased with the fact that he never had any seminary training.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 4:03:24 AM PDT by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: irishtenor

No, but he did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

(Is that right? I haven't seen American commercials in over a year.)


12 posted on 08/23/2005 4:07:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them on a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: Gamecock

Nah, with his money it would be "The Four Seasons" or nothing.


13 posted on 08/23/2005 4:10:25 AM PDT by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: sionnsar
While I'll agree with the author public reading of the word is important and faith comes from hearing, there must be a desire among Christians to want to know and follow God. A case in point is Ezra:


14 posted on 08/23/2005 4:22:58 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: sionnsar

Just because the Bible isn't read much during the service doesn't mean it isn't read. Episcopal churches typically have three or four readings (Old Testament lesson, Psalm, New Testament lesson and Gospel) on Sunday mornings. We see where that got them. Evangelical Protestants understand that their emphasis on Bible studies in small groups and personal devotion during the week is a much more efficient method of teaching Scripture than full reliance on readings in Church.


15 posted on 08/23/2005 4:25:12 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: irishtenor
I actually heard someone say that Osteen was the next Billy Graham.

That person is typical of feel goodism religiosity where sound Biblical doctrinal truth is no longer relevant. As long as someone like Osteen, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, T.D. Jakes or a myriad of false teachers use the name Jesus and stir them up emotionally, truth doesn't matter.

Jesus was right, "there are few that find the kingdom of heaven"(paraphrase).

16 posted on 08/23/2005 4:30:55 AM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: sionnsar
You know, I guess it all makes sense really. I think we Catholics probably read more scripture in Mass than the Evangelicals. However, I would put the difference down to obvious reasons. For us, the consecration is the point of the Mass. For evangelicals, a single verse from the Bible could be the point of the worship service.

At worship services, we're reading the Bible, Evangelicals are studying it. That's not to say Catholics don't or shouldn't study the Bible. It's just that Mass is not the place for it.

17 posted on 08/23/2005 4:39:51 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: sionnsar

This doesn't particularly surprise me. Being Catholic and being used to the amount of scripture either read or otherwise said during Mass (pretty much everything but the homily), it always amazes me while at a protestant service of any sort, how much of it is NOT from scripture. I've been to weddings where there weren't even Gospel readings. That just didn't work for me.


18 posted on 08/23/2005 4:55:48 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy; Gamecock

>>I actually heard someone say that Osteen was the next Billy Graham.<<

For kicks, I watched one of Osteens TV sermons a while back. A 30 minute sermon. He didn't mention God until the 22 minute mark. At the 28 minute mark, he closed with one verse from Hebrews that was taken entirely out of context and made irrelevant to the topic of his "sermon" on Emotional Bank Accounts.

What utter folly, and how wickedly deceived are the followers of this Snake Oil Salesman.

Preach the gospel. As it is, with no apologies or watering-down - and watch the Lord's work be done!


19 posted on 08/23/2005 5:23:59 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Pap always said, "Never trust a Hogwallop!")
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To: old and tired

***At worship services, we're reading the Bible, Evangelicals are studying it. That's not to say Catholics don't or shouldn't study the Bible. It's just that Mass is not the place for it.***

As a Proddie, I agree with you. I see the worship service as a time for a proclamation of God's word, not for a time of in depth study. That's what Sunday School and weekly studies are for.


20 posted on 08/23/2005 5:24:12 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them on a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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