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Prophecy today, Isaiah 14 is happening before us. (long vanity)
Eye witness news ^ | Aug 13, 2005 | American in Israel

Posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:17 AM PDT by American in Israel

Blessings to my fellow Freepers.

I have been a long time poster here on Freeper, but normally I always stay in the Foreign Affairs section. So much news, so little time. But this time, while I am still posting about my experience in Israel, my subject is eschatology, or the study of final prophetic events of the end of this age.

For thousands of years prophecy's in the Bible have sat on the pages like little kitchen clocks, wound up tight and frozen in place. No ticking, no action, just a paper weight. For many generations they have been knick-naks of curiosity for us to ponder over and set back in place when frankly, they do nothing. They are fun to talk about, but cannot hold interest long because they just do not apply to our lives much.

Much of the Bible is doctrine, and teaches us how to live in a right place with our Creator. Much of the bible is History which teaches us a different thing, not doctrine but what life is like. But part of that history is prophecy, not of the past, but of the future. God is timeless and omnipresent. So God when he tells us prophecy, does not tell us what He wants, He simply tells us what happened then.

This is a very significant time in Biblical History. This as in today, this Saturday, this week. This is a day that was written about in those little kitchen clock prophecies that you and I have played with, but frankly ignored more often than not. When is the last time you read from the Prophets in the Bible?

Imagine my shock last year when I discovered that many of the little kitchen decorations sitting on the shelf for a couple of thousand years have suddenly sprung to life and have been ticking in the empty kitchen of my Old Testament Bible study?

It is not that one is ticking, but many suddenly are!

For example Isaiah 14:29-32 and Zephniah 2. Long dormant, from the day of their birth, their little dials are moving now, and the ominous sound ticking is reverberating in that empty room. Today is an important day, a day of the next ratcheting click is upon us once again.

This Saturday is the evening of the Sabbath before the 9th of Av on the Hebrew calendar. This is an important day in History, a day of disaster that affects the world. It is the day of the destruction of both temples, a day of the beginning of the Spanish Inquistion, a day of the beginning of the World Wars in Europe. It is the day of the beginning of the expulsion of the Jews from their land by the United States of America. It is a day of infamy, of disaster and of historical shifts of the mega sort.

This day of the year is a traditional fast of mourning for the Jewish people, and may just become a day of mourning for the United States. People often say to me they do not see the United States in prophecy for some strange reason. There is a reason for that. One, they are looking in the wrong places, and two, because where it is listed it is not for good, but for bad.

In Isaiah 14, a puzzle is placed, a keyhole to the prophecy that you must find the exact key to fit. Once that lock is unlocked, the clock begins to count down to the destruction of the Palestinians. Not a normal destruction, but a complete wipeout from the Hand of God. This puzzle, or key hole is simply put like this:

Isaiah 14:28 This is the burden which came in the year that King Ahaz died.

Isaiah:29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper, And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

Let me translate this into a key.

King Ahaz died over 200 years after King David conquered the Philistines in the area of Gaza and annexed their land into his kingdom. Nobody had seen a living Philistine for generations when this prophecy came, and to this day we know virtually nothing about their fishing villages in this area as they were effectively wiped from the earth. There is very little remains of them even for archeologists. We do know that they were a Greek colony of people and that they were worshipers of Baal. We do not know what became of them.

This is very significant, as the Prophecy could not have meant the Philistines of Ancient times as when this prophecy was given, there were none. It has to be a prophecy of a modern race of people claiming to be Philistia.

Like the Palestinians, who pronounce it Falistia, as in Arabic they do not have a P sound. They may not be able to pronounce it, but they claim to be it. Funny huh?

Now we have defined the location of the lock, let us define the key.

The area of Palestine was always a backwater nomans land since the Islamic Horde wiped out the remnants of Israel's culture 1400 years ago. Nobody set up a kingdom there, it was always just a place, not a state. The Arabs, Christians and Jews that lived there were subject to various Kings and rulers, that changed like the tide, but none chose to live there or set up a kingdom there. Who would? It was an economically depressed land that barely supported the people that sustenance farmed its hot and unforgiving landscape. It was always ruled from afar, as a very poorly producing tax land by distant rulers.

That changed in the early days of the Nazi Empire. A local clan leader united the Arabs under the Nazi flag and became known as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He set up a kingdom on the coattails of Hitler pronouncing unity in the goal of extermination of the Jews.

He was a harsh task master to the Arabs, living with a Nazi king is always so I suspect. But he whipped the Arabs into some semblance of unity. A unity that was not shattered when his rule was broken by the British in their victory over Hitler at the end of the war and the formation of the State of Israel.

29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken..

And the timer, for the first time in over 2500 years ticked.

That Rod, was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and who he struck was that people, the Arab immigrants to the historical land of Israel. They were to be united again under the nephew of the Grand Mufti within one generation. His name was Yassar Arafat.

The word for Rod in Hebrew is Shevet, it is also used for Tribe. The rulers of the "Falistia" were a tribe from the Egyptian conquest. So both meanings of the word are in play, it is a pun, son. Who says God has no sense of humor?

For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper,

And the timer ticked again…

The Hebrew word for serpent is nahash, it simply means snake. But the word for viper is the word sefaph, it means a poisonous snake.

Yassar Arafat proved to indeed be a poisonous snake. It was he who invented modern terrorism as a State sponsored ideal. It was he who founded the death squad in Arab controlled lands here that execute any political opposition in public torture sessions. It was he who changed the living standard from then thousand a month (80% of the wages of his Jewish neighbors) to an average barely a thousand dollars a month. And it was he who crushed the people under an iron boot of multiple terrorist police forces battling for supremacy under his unforgiving rule.

Life became much harder under the hand of this ruler. And the next generation of Palestinians grew up in Arafat's schools, being trained from birth to be bomb fuses for Jihad, and being trained that the land they never owned, and the cities they never built was actually theirs and worth dying for. But, he, like all dictators eventually do, died.

And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

And the clock ticked the third time.

This time there is no successor from the root of the Rod or Tribe, the offspring of Arafat is the present government forming under the careful hand of President Bush from the ruins of the terrorist regime of Arafat. It is forming in a democratic way, the violently abused "Falistia" fresh from the mind numbing Jihad factories called schools. America my friends, pays for the books in those schools. The victims of those brainwashing factories are voting in Hamas and Fatah, the two most notorious terrorist groups in the Middle-East. Fatah who founded terrorism, and Hamas, who spread it through the West.

While we gave them democracy, we placed them under terrorist leaders, for it was America who insisted that Arafat be given rule and reign over the Arabs of Palestine when he was defeated in his bid for a kingdom in Lebanon. A bid that lead to the slaughter of over 100,000 Arab Lebanese.

The Hebrew words translated as fiery flying serpent here is literally flying viper with a side picture of demonic power. And demonic it is, for Hamas has instituted a Taliban like rule in Gaza that puts Afghanistan to shame. Instead of a trail and public execution, the roaming Hamas thugs make Islamic Fatwas on the spot and slaughter any passerby's that are deemed not Islamic enough.

Such was the fate a couple of months ago of a young betrothed couple walking together on a public beach downtown Gaza City. They had the grooms young sister as a escort, as a young couple are not allowed to be unescorted by a family member according to the social rules of Islam. This was on a public beach in the main city mind you, not some private place. Hamas ruled on the spot that the young sister was not enough escort and informed the couple of the fact by four of them emptying their AK47's into the bride to be. They then beat her remains to a pulp with bats and iron pipes and then continued on to hospitalize the groom and his little sister.

Truly, the Palestinians live with a dragon as a ruler now.

This key clearly unlocks the timer on this prophecy, and the next step is the complete destruction of the Palestinian Arabs.

First a promise to the Christian Arabs, a people who are rarely spirit filled and rather bitter towards the Jews due to being raised and steeped in this bitter regime of Islamic rulers. But a people most oppressed of any in this dark area of the world. For the Islamic's hate the Christians most of all as the Jews are all dead or gone.

Isaiah 14:30 The firstborn of the poor will feed, And the needy will lie down in safety;

But then the next part chills the blood:

I will kill your roots with famine, And it will slay your remnant.

The first born will be saved, but the families will be destroyed. Even among the poor there will be few survivors, but among the Muslims?

31 Wail, O gate! Cry, O city! All you of Philistia are dissolved; For smoke will come from the north, And no one will be alone in his appointed times."

This phrase speaks in Hebrew of appointments in the smoke, and there will be no loners without appointments in it. That appointment is destruction and the smoke? Well remember that God appeared as a column of fire by night and a cloud or SMOKE by day.

God Himself may be coming to destroy them.

But the most chilling statement in the whole prophecy for Americans, the pushers of this "Roadmap to Peace" that demands that Israel surrender the land given to them by God, is the last line:

Isaiah 14:32 What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD has founded Zion, And the poor of His people shall take refuge in it.

When this all goes south as it clearly will with the destruction of the Palestinians, What will be said to the Nation that pushed this plan on Israel and its innumerable Condis' and Powels and Generals and diplomats serving the hard line?

That the land of Israel is founded by God, for His people, not the political solutions of a Nation that has no right force the land to be given to others.

This my friends is a rebuke to America that we will ignore to our peril.

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To: Quix

Add me please.

121 posted on 07/16/2006 11:02:58 AM PDT by fanfan
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To: Quix

You are definitely on the list. Some Brothers I just don't let escape no matter what . . . well . . . unless they insist. LOL.

Thanks much for saying so.

122 posted on 07/16/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Conservative4Life


YOU Are certainly on the list. Thanks for asking.

God's best to you and yours.

123 posted on 07/16/2006 12:36:13 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: fanfan

YOU DEAR HEART have definitely been placed on the new forming list.

Thanks for asking.

God's best to you and yours.


124 posted on 07/16/2006 12:36:53 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Quix; American in Israel
I have to disagree....America is in the scriptures...

Isaiah’s Vision of the United States of America
January 1943

Text: Isaiah 18: 1-7, “Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled! All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye. For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches. They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.”

Whenever God has a place in His providence for a man or a nation we would expect Him to have a place in His prophecy. There is a short chapter in Isaiah, which means nothing to any commentator, preacher or layman on earth unless he has discovered that the Prophet Isaiah was given a vision of America as existing and playing a conspicuous part in the providence of God among the nations of the earth.

When we remember the origin of our country, its religious settlement, its free religion and superior education, its providential guidance, its mission among the people of the earth to spread liberty among the nations, its freeing of an oppressed race, we need not be surprised that these things are all intimated by the Holy Spirit in clear prophecy concerning the nations of the world.

The text is in that part of Isaiah where the “burden” of the various nations is given or as the margin gives it: “The oracle concerning Babylon which Isaiah the son of Amos did see,” concerning Moab; concerning Damascus; concerning Egypt; concerning the wilderness of the sea, or those nations of northern Europe where they have to dike out the water in order to till the land; concerning the valley of vision which is Palestine; and Tyre.


Right in the midst of these whose future is definitely prophesied, enclosed in a circle of the known nations, a country is described and prophesied that had no name. It is in keeping with each of this circle of nations in the other sections, but these nations are all named. Here is a section, but these nations are all named. Here is a section about a people not named. A blank space is left for the title. Whereas it is said of Egypt, “The burden of Egypt,” and of Tyre “the burden of Tyre,” there follows a description of a land that had no name because it had not yet been discovered and so was unknown to the prophets.

Would it surprise you to learn that the Book intended for all ages and all lands, as well adapted to the Twentieth Century as to the First, as vocal for the needs of America and China as it was for Rome and Jerusalem, should single out America in its prophetic message? I would be more surprised if in the preview of world history these seers did not see America, than to make the discovery that our country is in Isaiah’s vision than it would be for its omission.

A word of caution here: this chapter is admittedly most difficult for the interpreter Bishop Louth wrote voluminously on Isaiah, but coming to the 18th chapter he said, this is one of the most obscure prophecies; the people to whom it is addressed, the person he sends, the ambassadors, the nations to whom they are all sent, are extremely doubtful.”

No commentator has ever to my knowledge definitely stated to whom this chapter refers. George Adam Smith in his two-volume commentary on Isaiah passes it by with brief and inane words showing that he had no idea of its meaning. He could not apply it to anything or anybody. Therefore, we would not be contradicting an accepted teaching should we find a meaning for it. No other land would be deprived of it should it be found to apply to the United States.

Where a passage is translated without the translator knowing its meaning, you may look for poor work in rendering both the words and the sense. So I suppose this passage represents the most inaccurate, awkward and indefinite translation to be found in the Old Testament. The first word is wrong. The Hebrew word “hoi” with which the chapter opens is not an exclamation of woe, but a hailing for attention, “Ho.” It is the same word used in the same sense as in the 55th chapter of Isaiah, “Ho, everyone that thirsteth,” and the whole tenor of the chapter shows that it should be translated in the same manner here, “meted out and trodden down.” Here the tense is wrong. It is better translated in the Revised Version; and in the Jewish translations, it is properly rendered, “That meteth out and treadeth down.” It is not “scattered and pealed, “ but “spread out and polished” or furbished. Its land the rivers have not “spoiled,” but “divided or quartered.”

Let us give attention to the specific points of description and see if Isaiah does not clearly designate America and the government of the United States.


“Ho to the land shadowed with wings” or literally “with outstretched wings.” What are we to understand by the expression? I have consulted many commentators; they follow one another in applying this prophecy to Egypt. They do so because as they say, Egypt is the land that lies beyond the rivers of Ethiopia. To corroborate their view that the allusion is to Egypt, they cite as proof the fact that it is “a land shadowing with wings.” This is how they interpret the wings: they say they are the two strips of land and mountain on either side of the Nile, which practically form Egypt, which represent wings. I can see no such likeness any more than I can see the man or woman in the moon.

It is claimed by one or two commentators what the expression may refer to the winged die, which was the symbol of authority in the land of Egypt. You can see it carved upon the monuments and temples at the present time; it symbolized authority in days gone by. Hence the Douay Version, the Roman Catholic Bible, interprets wings as the winged disc but Egypt is not such a land as is spoken of here. Egypt is (comparatively speaking) an insignificant country through these latter ages. It does not send its ambassadors by the sea or over the great waters. Its list of ambassadors is very limited. It may be represented in the United States and in England and in some leading countries, but it certainly has no ambassadors all over the world, as one would be led to infer would be the case from the statement made here. The nation described must be very important country to send ambassadors all over the world by the sea. Therefore, Egypt cannot fill the bill --- too significant.

Dr. George D. Watson, of California, once wrote It is a singular fact that this term; “Ho to the land of outstretched wings,” expressing shelter for the oppressed cannot be applied to any other country on the face of the earth. Since the world began there has never been any country that from its beginning offered a welcome and hospitality to all other people for the purpose of giving them religious and civil liberty except America.”

In the prophet’s vision he saw a nation arise in the west, a wonderful power having a mission of service, but it had no name, so he had to describe it as the land of outstretched wings. It was by Divine providence that the eagle was selected as the emblem of the United States as a nation, and there is a deep truth hidden under this symbol that America should be in the providence of God, a land that should serve as a refuge for all the people of the earth. Its emblem is the eagle with its outstretched wings like a mother bird gathering her brood under her wings. It was to have a government for the protection of all other people, a land of religious liberty and freedom of conscience, a land that would welcome to its shores the downtrodden and the suffering people scattered abroad upon the face of all the earth.

When the leading French statesman made his address of welcome to President Wilson in the City of Paris, he spoke of Mr. Wilson as being the representative of “that nation that stretched its wings abroad for the protection of Europe”; and Clemenceau unwittingly used the very words of Isaiah twenty-six hundred years before, probably knowing nothing of Isaiah’s prophecy, but so accurate was the fulfillment of describing the conditions he had to use the very words of Isaiah’s inspired prediction.

What is our national emblem? The eagle with outstretched wings is our emblem. Look at your quarters or half-dollars or silver dollars and see its spread wings. Everywhereyou go in the United States you will see this symbol. The Hebrew is clear as light, “the land of outstretched wings” or “shadowing with wings” as in the Revised Version.

While other countries have had the eagle in their national emblem, no other country has the eagle with outstretched wings. Mexico has an eagle with closed wings; Germany has an eagle with closed wings and a double hear; Austria has an eagle, but there again it has closed wings. The United States has an eagle with spread wings; it is actually a “land shadowing with wings.”


“Which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia.” “Beyond” in Hebrew means west. When we look at a map the top is north, the bottoms south, the right is east and the left west. Not so with the Jews or other Orientals. They faced the sunrise. They looked eastward. “Before” meant east, “behind” or “beyond” meant west; his right had point’s south and his left to the north. “Beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: meant over his shoulder --- west, Let Isaiah stand in Jerusalem, face the sunrise and describe the land beyond the rivers of Ethiopia or the land of Cush. Throw a line from Jerusalem beyond the rivers of Ethiopia and it will run over northern Africa due west and you will see no country till you strike America, the coasts of South Carolina and Georgia, which are due west from Jerusalem! This prophecy was not spoken of Egypt or of any part of Africa, but to a nation that was west of Africa; so that it could not be spoken of Asia or Europe. The words can apply to no other land on the earth but the United States of America.


“That sendeth ambassadors by the sea in water drinking vessels upon the great waters.” The word ambassador means men or women who travel on business for the government. All our ambassadors go by water to Europe, Asia, Africa, and Australia, even to Mexico, Central America and South America. They all go by the sea. Now comes one of the poorest pieces of translating: “Even in vessels of bulrushes” or cattails, or as the Revised Version has it, “papyrus.” These are poor guesses. The translators of the King James Version in 1611 came to a Hebrew compound word “water drinking vessels.” They had no idea what it meant so they looked around for something that grew out of the water and guessed “bulrushes, cattails, flags, papyrus,” but these are plants, not vessels. Dr. Cummings, a competent Hebrew scholar says, “a water drinking vessel is a steamboat.” There was no such thing in his day and no such word. But the word, “water drinking vessel upon the great waters” is a picture of the ocean liner on all the seven seas, pumping up water, distilling it, turning it into steam to propel its “water drinking vessel” with crew, passengers and cargo, unto all lands. If the word “steamboat” had been used, no human being would have known what they meant. There was no such word. Not knowing the meaning, how could you expect them to translate it? The best translation they could devise was “vessels of papyrus or bulrushes or cattails.” They drank water but they are not vessels, they are plants. The fact of the case is that Isaiah was looking down the ages and seeing the time when America was exercising a controlling power throughout the world by sending all its ambassadors and its soldiers and its sailors by water drinking vessels, ocean liners, a vessel that drinks up water and makes steam to propel it, on all the waters of the world!

Here is a prophecy about America which had its striking fulfillment in 1917-18 when America sent over two and half million people across the ocean, even in water-drinking vessels upon the great waters, across the Atlantic on business for the government to defeat an ambitious tyrant, and to protect other nations. It is true that all generations of people have traveled in ships, and nations have sent their soldiers and sailors across the sea, but never since the world was made has any nation sent two million men on government business to fight for the liberty and safety of others. This prophecy cannot be applied to any race or nation on earth except to the United States in her action in the late war against German for the welfare of the race.


“To a nation tall and smooth,” literally “tall and clean-shaven.” One version renders it “tall and peeled” as a great land befurished like a sword ready for battle. The margin uses the word “peeled” instead of “clean-shaven.” It is evident that the prophet had a vision of the men tall like trees with the bark peeled off; but the best translation available is “tall and clean-shaven.” When Columbus came over here he found a people tall and smooth. The Indians were the tallest race on earth and all without beards. In the late war America raised and equipped an army of three million soldiers averaged more feet and inches in height than any other similar army ever marshalled on earth. The American soldiers that were measured five feet, eleven inches in height. This is the tallest army that world ever saw. Then a striking fact is, that of these three millions not a man wore a beard. Although many wore mustaches, there was not a full beard in the list. This item would not apply to any other army that ever marched. It does apply, however, to the native inhabitants of America as well as to our present people.


“To a people terrible from their beginning onward.” Did you ever bear of an infancy getting up and thrashing its mother in the process of being born? Wouldn’t you call that “terrible from its beginning”? That is what the United States did, whipped the mightiest nation of the known world in the process of being born. This historic statement cannot apply to any other nation on the globe. Other nations have gradually acquired great power and become terrible from many respects, no other nation was terrible from its beginning onward.

Look at our past, we have never been conquered. Look forward as far as the prophet could see onward, we will never be conquered. Isaiah stands in vision and sees an unconquerable people. We have fought with England, Mexico, and each other, with Spain, and with Germany, always with the same result.

Here is an expression of prophecy which applies to no other nation. It is added by the prophet that this character of being terrible from its beginning is to continue down to the end of time. The Revised Version says “terrible from their beginning and onward, “ but the original signifies “onward to the end.” Here we have an intimation that America will never be conquered from without down to the end of the ages. The only way we can be killed is by suicide. This may not prove the goodness of America; but it proves God’s plan concerning the nation; and these marvelous words of prophecy we may bank on. The one who told Isaiah knows.


“A nation that meteth out and treadeth down.” The literal translation would be the land measured out under the treading – this is, a land measured out by lines under the feet. Here is another startling prophecy that nobody on earth could foresee except the infinite mind of God. About the time that Florida and Louisiana were taken into the Union, and Ohio taken in as a state, the government passed a law that all public lands should be surveyed by the north star, and a base line run east and west and all this land cut up into mile square sections. Our map is like a checkerboard. These sections are subdivided into quarter sections of half a mile square, which is the amount of land allotted to our soldiers and sailors for homesteads. No nation was ever so meted out in blocks before.

This is a significant thing. All the countries of the earth as in the division of the land under Joshua surveyed and marked their land by local boundaries. If you buy a lot or acre in England today, your description will begin with a rock or tree, or corner of a barn or fence and the portions of land will be defined by thee local marks.

For the first time in the human race the American government found a new way of meting out land by a general survey by measurements according to ranges with the North Star. All the land in America from the western edge of Pennsylvania to the Pacific Ocean and from Canada to Mexico has been surveyed by lines of measurement staked off in sections and quarter sections. The state of Florida, which came into the Union about 1845, after the law of general surveys, had been passed, is thus surveyed into sections.

There are millions of Americans who do not know this fact. They have no idea how the government surveys and divides all its land in sections with lines pointed due north or south; east and west, but Somebody Who know about the very habits of our nation showed this to the Prophet Isaiah twenty-six hundred years ago.

How did we get this land? We measured it off in sections and trod down the Indians and took it. Isaiah saw a land “that meteth out by line and treadeth down.” The story of our treading down a race is a sordid one, but a true one. Isaiah is not moralizing, but is defining and describing. We are a people that meteth out by line and treadeth down.


The poorest translation of all is here. The old version says, “Whose land the rivers have spoiled.” The margin says “despise.” The Revised Version comes nearer, “Whose land the rivers divide.” But the Hebrew word is the term used in the ritual of sacrifice where an animal is hung up and divided into four quarters. The knife cuts right down from head to foot and then across dividing it into four parts. The word should be rendered literally, “quartered.”

Is there any land on the earth in Europe, Asia, Africa or Australia that is quartered by rivers? There is not an ancient map or a modern one of the world that will show such as the United States. The Mississippi River takes its rise near the Canadian border and cuts right down to the Gulf of Mexico dividing our land into halves. On the western coast is the Columbia River. Follow it upward to its junction with the Snake River; follow that upward into close proximity with the source of the Missouri, which starts in Montana and meanders eastward into the Mississippi, dividing the West into halves. Follow the Ohio eastward to Pittsburgh and its junction with the Monogahela that runs by McKeesport; then follow eastward the Youghiogheny where at Glenco, Pa., it becomes the Castleman; go in upstream till Wills Creek branches off and takes its source where the Potomac begins and runs to the Bay and the Atlantic and you have the Eastern half of the nation divided in two. So the whole “land that is quartered by rivers.”

You cannot find any other land on earth divided in this way, into four sections: North-east, North-west, South-east, and South-west by rivers. This prophetic word can be applied to no other country than the United States.


Now comes a prophetic word more startling than any yet, “All ye inhabitants of the world and ye dwellers on the earth, when an ensign is lifted up on the mountains, se ye; and when the trumpet is blown, hear ye.” Whenever this people displays its flag and sounds the bugle of war, take notice, world! A people that has never been overcome in any war and is so situated that the combined armies of the world could not give their horses a drink out of our Missouri, Mississippi, or Ohio rivers in a trial of a thousand years, is too big not to have been seen by the Divine Seer, too important to be overlooked by Divine providence, and too integral a part of God’s plan for the ages to be ignored in world councils. When they rise up, see ye, and when they blow the trumpet, hear ye.

This part of the prophecy had its partial fulfillment in 1918, when our President began to deliver his messages concerning the principles of the peace conference and the conditions that should obtain in the nations forming the League of Nations, and in all the understanding and adjustments of the nations and boundaries after the great war. Ignoring politics and personalities, the prophet saw our armies becoming the decisive factor in the Great War.

These prophetic words have been quietly reposing in an unnoticed chapter of God’s inimitable Book for twenty-six long centuries, and not till our day were they brought out of their quiet resting place and fulfilled as a literal stupendous fact before the eyes of the whole world. “There is much light yet to break out of God’s Holy Book.” God saw this nation, “Lift up en ensign on the mountains,” and blow the trumpet. The fulfillment of this scripture by all that has transpired in the World War is so perfect that it is impossible to misconstrue it or to apply it to any other nation.


“In that time shall a present be brought unto Jehovah of hosts from a people tall and clean shaven, from a people terrible from their beginning and onward, a nation that meteth out by line and treadeth down, whose land the rivers have quartered, to the place of the name of the Jehovah of hosts, the mount Zion.” If you were asked to give the best symbol of the United States, you could not do better than quote the opening words of our text, “Ho, to the land of outstretched wings.” And if you were asked to name the chief characteristic of America you could not do better than quote the last verse, “At that time shall a present be brought from a people”; whose description is identified with the United States.

The word “present” or “gift” is in the original a generic term and includes all gifts and presents. When Cuba asked to be freed from a yoke of tyranny, we sent our young men to fight their cause. We fed the starving in Puerto Rico. Gave propensity to the Philippines, the open door to China. Built the Panama Canal and conquered the dread disease of yellow fever. When Ireland was starving, we sent her great cargoes of food. When Japan was shaken by earthquake, all hearts were stirred, but America sent more food and clothing and medicine and money than all the rest of the world put together. This was true when Belgium starved and Europe grew hungry.

Look at the facts. Since the Great War began, this American Nation has sent so many nations gifts and presents of everything that one can mention. We have sent wheat, corn, meats, all kinds of foodstuffs, ammunition, medicine, first aid equipment, railroad materials, timber, nurses, teachers, surgeons, soldiers, ministers, artists, laborers, and cash money not only by millions but by hundreds of millions to help the needy nations of Europe and of Western Asia. Such a scene was never witnessed before in the history of the human race. All the gifts of all other nations seem but a drop in the bucket compared to the gifts that were sent from America to European nations.

The prophet sees “in that time,” the time of United States history, “shall the present be brought to the Jehovah of hosts from this people.” The sending of relief in foodstuffs, medicine, munitions of war, and all kinds of benevolence and donations have been of a magnitude that startles the wildest imagination and surpasses anything that could have been dreamed of a few years ago. There is no parallel to this in the history of the world. The Almighty God saw this and showed it to His prophet and he put it down in the ever-growing Book and we stand amazed when we read these words with so exact and literal a fulfillment that he "“who runs may read.”

125 posted on 07/16/2006 1:29:19 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: shield; All

Works for me. The best analysis of those passages I've ever read.

Thanks much. Will check out THE MESSAGE version. Peterson caught a lot of errors others didn't.

George Washington's vision saw America assaulted East and West but not destroyed and rescuted in the end by The Lord of Hosts. Peterson uses: "God of the Angel Armies."

Dimitru Duduman's multiple dreams and visiions saw similarly.

Looks to get interesting.

126 posted on 07/16/2006 2:33:48 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Quix
I never said there'd not be an attack by China and Russia. Russia east coast...China west the end we are victorious....Our Lord Jesus Christ steps in along with the heavenly angels.

Who is Peterson?

127 posted on 07/16/2006 2:41:38 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: shield

Didn't mean to imply you'd said that. Sorry.

Peterson translated Scriptures as THE MESSAGE version.

It's my current nightly reading. Love it. He captures a LOT of the original languages' vernacular and earthy tone, idiom etc. I think he's a lot more accurate in several places.

128 posted on 07/16/2006 2:50:06 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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OK...I understand...This particular person...died a few yrs back...I think, his thoughts were the KJV of 1611 has the anointing...not sure on that...I'll have to take a look at the version you're speaking of....

I happen to think the way he can America NOT be in the scriptures....

129 posted on 07/16/2006 2:59:41 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Quix

God's love and comfort to you and yours.

Can you please explain LUB to me?

130 posted on 07/16/2006 3:16:24 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: shield

Ahhhh, Thanks.

Please consider the DEVOTIONAL I just posted.

Would be blessed by your response.

131 posted on 07/16/2006 3:47:31 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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THANKS for asking. Sorry . . .


with a Big heart of Love implanted by, via The God Who IS Love, our Lord, Jesus, The Christ.

132 posted on 07/16/2006 3:48:47 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: shield

This particular person...died a few yrs back
= = = =

Lost you on that one. Whom are you referring to?

133 posted on 07/16/2006 3:49:46 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Quix

The author of that interpretation of Isaiah 18...

134 posted on 07/16/2006 3:53:36 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Quix

That's very nice.

LUB back!

135 posted on 07/16/2006 3:53:41 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: shield; fanfan



136 posted on 07/16/2006 4:03:07 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! ManI y very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: American in Israel
Did he protect the Constitutional limits on Government or negate them with the Patriot act? He negated them.

This is so not true, and is the smoke and mirrors of liberals out to destroy him, and us, in my opinion. This Patriot Act is NOT what the left is pretending it is, or what the right is fearing it is. Dear God, he is trying to make this nation more secure, which is his job, not dispensing religion on this country as you seem to want him to.

137 posted on 07/16/2006 5:09:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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138 posted on 07/16/2006 5:25:41 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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