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More on the Martin Proposal, Which Is Not New
Drell's Descants, 7/18/2005

I would note that these same ideas have been floated by me a long time ago, and by Fr. Ed Zelly, although with a different take on where the money goes and on procedural issues. There may have been others who have floated similar ideas; forgive me if I don’t recall the posts.

You can find my old proposal here: http://descant.classicalanglican.net/index.php?p=5 (main differences with the Martin proposal - requires consent of the receiving Diocese at their convention; no time limit/may be permanent, but with 5 year reconciliation period after which Diocesan convention must vote to let the parish leave, buildings would go with the leaving parish at that point.)

You can find Fr. Ed Zelly’s proposal here: http://descant.classicalanglican.net/index.php?p=113 (main differences with Martin proposal - renewable 3 year terms; assessment to Diocese gets split three ways - 1/3 to a ministry within the Diocese; 1/3 to world mission; 1/3 to “flying” bishop to defer expenses of same.)

I think these options deserve our consideration at GC2006. More and more, I think that non-geographical polity may be the best way to go under these circumstances. It doesn’t solve all the problems that are raised in the Windsor Report, but it would solve a heck of a lot of “local” problems that are bubbling to the surface.

1 posted on 07/18/2005 2:16:43 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 07/18/2005 2:18:16 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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Many of us have felt this where we will end up with two branches.

The old branch based on the bible, tradition and belief.

The new left branch based on whatever feels good with no judgement.


3 posted on 07/18/2005 2:58:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM is trying to make us believe, Judith Miller is in jail to protect Karl Rove!)
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I think these options deserve our consideration at GC2006.

Events may well have moved past the point where such solutions would have worked. Such proposals require that you feel that the other side is willing to deal with you honorably and in good faith, and that the receiving Bishop would be willing to stand up for you. Current evidence is lacking with regard to both of these.

5 posted on 07/18/2005 8:54:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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