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To: dsc

You automatically assume that enforced community service will be for "the common good".

Wars can be just or unjust, which is why we have conscientious objectors.

And "community service" is actually one of the most destructive government programs ever devised. The community is not established and maintained by the government. The community establishes and maintains the government.

Giving clean needles out, distributing condoms, midnight basketball, and whatever other whimsy some elite group of corrupt powerbrokers have decided for your children to do may be fine for you but I would not allow my children to be corrupted by their filth.

If the French Army could supply mobile brothels for their soldiers, why is it such a far cry for U.S. women (and men)to be eventually conscripted for the "morale of the people" to bend over and 'take it like a man'? I mean, they will be paid of course. We could even start encouraging people to breed the right types of people suited for that thing. Ah...Eugenics, where have you been?

After that, we'll be euthanizing people. Oh wait, we're already doing that.





58 posted on 07/07/2005 10:01:45 AM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: Gerard.P

"You automatically assume that enforced community service will be for "the common good".

I don't "automatically assume" doodly squat. I think that it can be run for the common good, and I don't believe that the possibility of abuse is sufficient grounds to insist it not be done.

"Wars can be just or unjust, which is why we have conscientious objectors."

With very few exceptions, such as Quakers (who object to all wars, just or unjust), we have conscientious objectors because some people are always trying to scam their way through life.

"And "community service" is actually one of the most destructive government programs ever devised."

I'd prefer military service, but a stint repairing roads and bridges doesn't seem too destructive to me.

"Giving clean needles out, distributing condoms, midnight basketball, and whatever other whimsy some elite group of corrupt powerbrokers have decided for your children to do may be fine for you but I would not allow my children to be corrupted by their filth."

I see we have entirely different visions as to what sort of service should be performed, and who should be running it. I would define community service as finding people who think the things you name are a good idea and whacking them on the head with a baseball bat.

"If the French Army could supply mobile brothels for their soldiers, why is it such a far cry for U.S. women (and men)to be eventually conscripted for the "morale of the people" to bend over and 'take it like a man'?"

Because we're not French. Besides that, it's a total non-sequitur. Even the French didn't draft ordinary women to serve as hookers.

"After that, we'll be euthanizing people."

Yeah, euthenasia was such a *huge* problem back from 1941 though 1973, when we had a draft. There's a clear link.


61 posted on 07/07/2005 10:19:38 AM PDT by dsc
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