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Feast of St. Joseph the Worker (May 1st.)- Discussion
04/29/05 | Myself

Posted on 04/29/2005 7:22:48 AM PDT by jrny

I wanted to start a discussion about the upcoming feast of St. Joseph the Worker. In the traditional Mass (Missals dated between 1956 and 1962), this feast is celebrated on May 1st. as a feast of the First Class. This year it falls on Sunday and therefore, it supersedes the 5th. Sunday after Easter, with a Commemoration of the Sunday.

History...The feast was established by Pope Pius XII in 1955 (and first celebrated in 1956) as an effort to Christianize the Communist May Day. Pius XII gave Catholic workers a role model in St. Joseph and a correct understanding of the dignity of labor, as opposed to the Marxist falsehoods concerning labor.

Liturgically...prior to 1956, there existed the Feast of the Solemnity of St. Joseph, which was celebrated on the Wednesday after the 2nd. Sunday after Easter. It was termed Solemnity to refer to the fact that the Church wanted to celebrate St. Josesph in the full splendor and joy that was curtailed on his actual feast in March, which almost always occurs during Lent. Also, May 1st. was the feast of the Apostles Sts. Philip and James. Pius XII transferred their feast to May 11th, and he eliminated the Solemnity of St. Joseph in favor of St. Joseph the Worker. In the United States, the Mass of St. Joseph the Worker is also allowed as a Votive Mass of the 4th. Class on our Labor Day in September.

Sadly, in 1969 with the advent of the Novus Ordo, Pope Paul VI downgraded this feast to an optional Memorial on May 1st. Therefore, only traditional Mass venues who adhere to the Missals dated between 1956 and 1962 will be observing the feast of St. Joseph the Worker this Sunday. Traditionalists who adhere to pre-1956 Missals will be observing Sts. Philip and James this Sunday, while the Novus Ordo will be celebrating the 6th. Sunday of Easter.

Contentions...Some TLM priests and others still strongly object to this feast mostly because they see it as a platitude toward the Communists. I have witnedssed outright refusal to say this Mass among some priests who adhere to the 1962 Missal. In more cases, some traditionalists downplay this feast as much as they can within the letter of liturgical law. Personally, I don't understand the objection. What better way to trump the Communists than steal their message of "worker dominance" and replace it with a Christian view of the dignity of labor? What better patron than St. Joseph?

Any thoughts?


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1 posted on 04/29/2005 7:22:48 AM PDT by jrny
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To: Pyro7480

Ping.


2 posted on 04/29/2005 7:24:51 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny
What better way to trump the Communists than steal their message of "worker dominance" and replace it with a Christian view of the dignity of labor? What better patron than St. Joseph?

I agree with you. I also do not understand the refusal to commemorate that feast. Then again, St. Joseph is my favorite saint!

3 posted on 04/29/2005 7:26:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: jrny
>What better way to trump the Communists than steal their message of "worker dominance" and replace it with a Christian view of the dignity of labor?

As a Protestant,
it all sounds like a bunch of
lunatics mixing

politics with God,
and making religion look
like nannies fighting!

4 posted on 04/29/2005 7:27:17 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

Christmas and Easter were similar and successful efforts to trump pagan celebrations. The Church uses elements of the natural world to convey us to the supernatural. That is basically a definition of liturgy.


5 posted on 04/29/2005 7:34:01 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: NYer

Ping!

Do you some perspective since you many remember the implementation of this feast?


6 posted on 04/29/2005 7:35:57 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny
>to trump pagan celebrations

Is there a difference
between trumping pagans and
trivializing

Christianity
?
If it's all the same, just with
updated posters,

why should pagans change?
If religion's just "drama,"
then why should kids care?

7 posted on 04/29/2005 7:39:48 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

If as a Protestant you cannot appreciate Catholic Liturgy, then why in God's name are you trying to hijack my discussion?


8 posted on 04/29/2005 7:42:51 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny
>why in God's name are you trying to hijack my discussion?


9 posted on 04/29/2005 7:46:43 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: AlbionGirl; Tantumergo

Ping.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 7:46:50 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny

http://magnificat.ca/cal/engl/05-01.htm


11 posted on 04/29/2005 7:59:41 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jrny; theFIRMbss

And how to you think that we have so many conversions to the Catholic faith?

It starts with little inquiries/comments like this.


12 posted on 04/29/2005 8:02:19 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jrny; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ..

We know Joseph was a man of faith, obedient to whatever God asked of him without knowing the outcome. When the angel came to Joseph in a dream and told him the truth about the child Mary was carrying, Joseph immediately and without question or concern for gossip, took Mary as his wife. When the angel came again to tell him that his family was in danger, he immediately left everything he owned, all his family and friends, and fled to a strange country with his young wife and the baby. He waited in Egypt without question until the angel told him it was safe to go back.

Novena to
St. Joseph

*NOVENA PRAYER
*(prayer to be said at the end of each day's devotion)

Saint Joseph, I, your unworthy child, greet you. You are the faithful protector and intercessor of all who love and venerate you. You know that I have special confidence in you and that, after Jesus and Mary, I place all my hope of salvation in you, for you are especially powerful with God and will never abandon your faithful servants. Therefore I humbly invoke you and commend myself, with all who are dear to me and all that belong to me, to your intercession. I beg of you, by your love for Jesus and Mary, not to abandon me during life and to assist me at the hour of my death.

Glorious Saint Joseph, spouse of the Immaculate Virgin, obtain for me a pure, humble, charitable mind, and perfect resignation to the divine Will. Be my guide, my father, and my model through life that I may merit to die as you did in the arms of Jesus and Mary.

Loving Saint Joseph, faithful follower of Jesus Christ, I raise my heart to you to implore your powerful intercession in obtaining from the Divine Heart of Jesus all the graces necessary for my spiritual and temporal welfare, particularly the grace of a happy death, and the special grace I now implore:

(Mention your request).

FULL TEXT

13 posted on 04/29/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: theFIRMbss
This is what a 2000 year old religion does to survive and thrive...it stamps out error by co-opting it and replacing it with Christian truth.

The Roman Catholic Church, the one and original, in business since 33 AD.

We're here to establish the reign of Christ the King. You betcha we're mixing politics, government and religion!

14 posted on 04/29/2005 8:10:46 AM PDT by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Church)
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To: jrny
Do you some perspective since you many remember the implementation of this feast?

Not really. In HS, however, we were all reminded of this powerful saint, especially on March 19, by our teachers, members of the Sisters of St. Joseph. They celebrate his feast day.

15 posted on 04/29/2005 8:11:00 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: jrny
"Some TLM priests and others still strongly object to this feast mostly because they see it as a platitude toward the Communists"

They got it a**-backwards. The commie-friendly Novus Ordo hates this feast (hence its downgrading).

16 posted on 04/29/2005 8:12:41 AM PDT by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Church)
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To: Pio

They got it a**-backwards. The commie-friendly Novus Ordo hates this feast (hence its downgrading).

I thought the same. Boggles my mind why the ultra-traditionalists hate this feast as much as the modernists? Strange bedfellows, huh?


17 posted on 04/29/2005 8:16:08 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny

Well I learned something today; I never knew St Joseph had another feast day on May 1. I thought March 19 was it. At first it did strike me as pandering to Communism. But if one understands Pope Pius XII's rationale for establishing the May feast, it's not a bad idea. Thinking of St Joseph/May Day along the same lines as Christmas/Saturnalia helps alot and makes it quite apparent this is not a concession to Communism.


18 posted on 04/29/2005 8:16:37 AM PDT by sassbox
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To: jrny; Pio
I found this citation on a ultra-traditionalist website:

When, five weeks later, Pius XII announced the feast of St. Joseph the Worker (which caused the ancient feast of Ss. Philip and James to be transferred, and which replaced the Solemnity of St Joseph, Patron of the Church), there was open opposition to it.

For more than a year the Sacred Congregation of Rites refused to compose the office and Mass for the new feast. Many interventions of the pope were necessary before the Congregation of Rites agreed, against their will, to publish the office in 1956—an office so badly composed that one might suspect it had been deliberately sabotaged. And it was only in 1960 that the melodies of the Mass and office were composed—melodies based on models of the worst taste.

"We relate this little-known episode to give an idea of the violence of the reaction to the first liturgical reforms of Pius XII".

I wonder if this is true. The author makes an error later in the article: John XXIII introduced the name of St. Joseph into the Canon during the council, violating the tradition that only the names of martyrs be mentioned in the Canon. He forgot that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the first saint mentioned in the Canon!

19 posted on 04/29/2005 8:29:27 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

Right off the SSPV website! No surprise here :)

against their will, to publish the office in 1956—an office so badly composed that one might suspect it had been deliberately sabotaged. And it was only in 1960 that the melodies of the Mass and office were composed—melodies based on models of the worst taste.

Is this opinion or fact? Who determined what is bad composition or taste? I have a copy of the Office, and its antiphons are beautiful ("Christ became worthy to be the son of an artisan"), and the Introit is sung in a beautiful and joyful 7th. Mode. The readings of Matins incorporate the passage of Genesis about how work was dignified BEFORE the fall, and also the writings of Pius XII in establishing this feast.

violating the tradition that only the names of martyrs be mentioned in the Canon. He forgot that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the first saint mentioned in the Canon!

Actually, Our Lady is considered the Queen of Martyrs, and hence they (SSPV) will tell you that she rightfully should be included in that list.


20 posted on 04/29/2005 8:37:25 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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