Skip to comments.Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam
Posted on 02/15/2005 7:39:20 AM PST by Destro
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I was not aware of the daughter being name 'Fatima'. Interesting connection.
I read on a thread yesterday, that Portugal will survive as a Catholic European nation.
LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97
Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies
Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)
Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.
I'm a skeptic but I posted this for Catholic Freepers.
I think that it is not Islam that is the problem. Instead, it is the New Age "spirituality" and the call for unification of all religions that is undermining the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. It is my belief that the Third Secret referred to this.
I find it ironic that the death of Sister Lucia has been ignored by mainstream media. Perhaps it is simply indicative of the above.
Why did you assume she should be covered more by the media (beyond the current level of coverage)? Many (even religous people) don't accept the Fatima visions and she was not a public figure like Mother Teresa.
Because there has been renewed discussion of religion in mainstream media. There was a movie about the visions at Fatima. And it's a little more important than the death of rapper "Old Dirty B******," someone I'd never heard of.
Perceptions are a tricky thing. I find the Sister's death well covered via Google news it. I disagree with you and would not assume the Sister's death at a very old age death would be a front page headline.
I didn't suggest that it would be front page news, simply that I haven't heard one word on network or cable news.
You say "perceptions are a tricky thing." I'm not sure what you are referring to. Perceptions of what?
And what are you disagreeing with? The idea that it merits some mention on televised news? Or with something else?
The Catholic Church has proclaimed that the visions did occur after between 40,000 and 70,000 witnessed the sign at Fatima.
I am pretty sure the cable news networks covered this news. Maybe in your perception the media did not cover it enough - but it was covered. That is fine for Catholics to view the Fatima visions as such - but many Catholics are also skeptical of Fatima and non-Catholics have no Fatima reference for this to matter to them. So in this case I am defending the media because the balance of coverage of the Sister's death seems about right to me.
OK. If the media mentioned Sister Lucia's death, then I missed it completely. I first read the news here and when I googled it the 13th and early the 14th, I saw nothing except a memo or two in foreign or Catholic news services. If you say you think it was, in fact, mentioned on televised news, then I believe you and apologize for my error.
All miracles are not of God, so keep that in mind.
The NYT had two articles online. Both referred to Sr. Lucy as the survivor who "allegedly" saw Mary. Grrrrr. It was just recycled AP b/s.
Thanks, Jaded :) NY Times...probably why I missed it...and obviously I didn't miss much...figgers, doesn't it? Appreciate the help.
Thanks, tessalu. I am well aware. However, considering that I humbly agree with the probable message of the Third Secret, I don't think the Evil One was responsible for the miracle.
And this is not to say that I think John Paul II was correct in his insistance that the vision had to do with the attempt on his life. I think that the Pope, represnting the Church, is "murdered" (betrayed) by those who have accepted the false Messiah; the anti-christ who leads the New Age unified religion which glorifies Lucifer.
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I don't have a problem with secular journalists using the word "allegedly" to describe if the visions took place. It is actually ethical to use that language.
It was just weird considering how many witnesses (40,000 to 70,000) there were for the last appearance and it's "alleged".
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