[Salvation]

Isn't membership in the church a simple thing -- through the Sacrament of Baptism?

It sounds like you are making this terribly complicated.

[Salvation]

**Isn't membership in the church a simple thing -- through the Sacrament of Baptism?**

And wasn't this the norm before Vatican II as well as after it?

[pascendi]

If I were to sum this whole thing up as simply as possible, I'd say the same thing.

We have a doctrine, for Heaven's sake. Literally for Heaven's sake.

[gbcdoj]

Isn't membership in the church a simple thing -- through the Sacrament of Baptism?

Right. The question is how those who are not incorporated into the Catholic Church as members are saved. JP II writes: "For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation." (Redemptoris missio, 10).

pascendi's argument is that this (the Pope's teaching) is a heresy.