God and the Death Penalty

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[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Matthew 7:1 & Capital Punishment ("Judge not??)

John 8:3-11 & Capital Punishment

Biblical Verses on Capital Punishment

Matthew 5:43-48 & Capital Punishment

Paul 12:14-19 & Capital Punishment

God's Justice and Ours [Antonin Scalia on capital punishment]

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Bump!!!

[johnmilken]

"Jesus reaffirmed the capital statutes of God's law. Not only the murderer (Rev. 13:10; 1 Tim. 1:8-9; Rom. 13:4), but even the one who curses a parent must be put to death (Ex. 21:17 and Lev. 20:9) just as God commanded. God's commands to execute the one who strikes or curses a parent are the death penalty statutes that liberal Christians are the most embarrassed over. However, Christ was not at all embarrassed over His Fathers commands. Jesus repeated these commands without caveat or reservation."

Wait, wait, wait!

So you're calling for the death penalty for people who 'strike or curse a parent'?
Seriously?

[Hegemony Cricket]

Ping to interesting article re: death penalty

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

I'm advocating the position that capital punishment is in keeping with Christian teaching.

[GarySpFc]

Ping for an interesting death penalty article.

[Freakazoid]

So you're calling for the death penalty for people who 'strike or curse a parent'? Seriously?

The Bible was written by God, not Conservative Coulter Fan.

[johnmilken]

According to the quotes from the Bible, Jesus advocates the death penalty for those who curse or strike a parent. The opinion seems pretty clear from the extracts provided by C.C Fan.

Are you suggesting that while you support Christ's call for the death penalty, you think he was mistaken and / or mistranslated when he SPECIFIED what offences should be punished this way?

Surely if we are to take Him at his word we cannot pick and choose when clear guidance is offered?

Note: when people begin "well, what the Lord meant to say..." I get real suspicious.

Or did I misread the post twice? [Very possible]

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:19)

[nmh]

Capital punishment is Biblically correct.

[johnmilken]

Hey...I'm not arguing that the Bible and God / Jesus doesn't say that. I'm just asking, since you seem to feel we should be following the letter of God's law, if you feel comfortable supporting Christ's call for the death penalty for those who curse / strike their parents.

From your last post I take it that you do.

I guess I admire you Abrahamic [sp?] faith, I just find it a rather extreme position and am not surprised I've never seen it highlighted before.
But, since God said it I guess the faithful have no choice in this and must also support extending capital punishment to other offences.

Are there any online groups supporting death for unfilial children? I'd love to read their FAQ and clear up what I'm sure are misconceptions on my part.

[johnmilken]

"Capital punishment is Biblically correct."

For unfilial children, like Jesus says?

[nmh]

"Capital punishment is Biblically correct."

You: For unfilial children, like Jesus says?

Me: Jesus never said the above. Do yourself a favor and read the post. I think you'll find the answer to your question.

[aimhigh]

Although the law of Moses promoted capitol punishment, Jesus quoted that law to those under the law. Later, He died, not to destroy the law, but to set us free from the law of Moses. We are not under the old covenant, or OT law.

The NT argument for capitol punishment is found in Romans 13:4, which says that civil goverment exists to execute wrath on evil doers. Then it mentions the Roman sword.

[loboinok]

So you're calling for the death penalty for people who 'strike or curse a parent'?
Seriously?


You are missing the point,IMHO. IF God's commandments had been followed as stated up to today, it would be so normal and natural that you would not even question in the way you do.
We have digressed so far from this commandment with todays obvious result, that to bring us back to the truth is almost an assault on the mind.

[loboinok]

Thank you for the ping. Very good article.

[Sergio]

Thanks for the post. Especially the references.

Best Regards

Sergio

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Christ said, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
(Source)

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Should I take from your post that we should “pick and choose” whatever parts we like and adhere to those parts, but when we come across a part that we don’t like that we should ignore it or defy it through justification on the grounds of utilitarian “values?” Or perhaps even on contemporary secular grounds?

[johnmilken]

I take it from your post that you agree with Christ when he says that death is an appropriate punishment for striking or cursing parents. I just want to know if this is a well-publicised part of the Christian faith - if not, why do you think the Church is setting it's face against one God's (apparently) key laws? As a keen student of religion it's a debate I admit to being ignorant of, but would like to learn more.

And I don't pick OR choose. I am not a Christian (although I love the Sermon on the Mount), so the question doesn't apply to me. A God that calls for death for unfilial children doesn't appeal to me.

And, yes, I'm sure I will repent for the above in Hell, just as soon as I paid off my spiritual debt for cursing my father a few times when I was a misguided teen.