Posted on 12/14/2004 7:53:38 PM PST by Land of the Irish
Traditio and The Remanant get nuttier by the day.
Two? Seeing double again?
Guimares and Horvat. Or did you not even read your own article?
It's no surprise that the trads aren't opposed to it:
In this case, indeed, they ought not to be baptized, but be sent back to those in whose power and trust they are lawfully placed. But, if they have been already admitted to the sacrament, either they must be detained or recovered from their Hebrew parents and handed over to the faithful of Christ, so that they may be piously and religiously trained by them; for this is the effect of baptism, which, though it be unlawful, nevertheless is true and valid. (Benedict XIV, "Postremo mense", DS 1490)
"These two banshees take off"
Are you upset at the lack of tribute to your 2 heroes - Kasper and Kung?
"It's no surprise that the trads aren't opposed"
It's even less of a surprise that modernists managed to get John XIII beatified....
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a006bIncorruptPopeht.htm
One author; many quotes.
Are Tramontin, Gottardi, Congar, Kung, et al, "banshees"?
You always ignore the facts and dish the source.
I had this vague impression observing from outside the looking glass that beatification/cannonization was something about miracles witnessed here on earth, and not about serving as a vehicle for waging PC/RC internecine backbiting. Am I suffering from a misapprehension here?
I agree; your impression is vague.
Well, at least we agree on something. I take it you don't want to help me make it less vague, which is certainly a reasonable exercise of your perogative. There are just so many fuzzy wuzzies out there, and so little time.
But now the Church has judged, and judged well.
Nevertheless, with the opinion of higher probability having been supposed because beatification is not a judgment concerning the sanctity of some man, but only a permission that he can be revered and venerated publicly, I judge that the pontiff cannot err practically in such beatification, so he is temarious and scandalous, who refuses such honor, or does not affirm that such worship must be tendered. (John of St. Thomas, II-II, q. 1 to 7; disp. 3, a. 2, no. 19)
"There are just so many fuzzy wuzzies out there, and so little time."
This may assist you in your struggle to make sense of the modern "saint factory"...
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/k00CanonizationsIndex.html
John Paul II also beatified Pius IX, an acknowledged kidnapper.
Under Pius' patronage, Edgardo grew up a church ward and later a priest.
"That mother was deprived of her son," Giacomo Saban, an Italian Jewish leader, told the crowd. "The injury is still alive. It's still felt."
Other speakers read from passages of Pius' writing, including one in which he allegedly wrote Jews were not citizens but "dogs."
You apparently have no problem with this.
The Talmud Unmasked...
http://www.talmudunmasked.com/
LOL!!! What nonsense.
I have an idea, let's replace the words "Hebrew parents" with apostate, heretic, or dissenting Catholic parents and implement this right away!
Go ahead. You'll be doing 5-10 for kidnapping.
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