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To: marshmallow
By which you derisively refer to Catholics

I'm referring "derisively" to nobody.

YES - you were. And if you're going to be like that, then take responsibility for it, as well.

the Pope in overly critical and derisive terms. As to whether you can do this and still be Catholic,

Or whether you can remain silent and uncomplaining in the face of unholy 'reform' - and call yourself Catholic. True?

My answer is to be loyal to the one whom the Holy Spirit

Alright - if that's the answer, what PRECISELY is the question as you see it? Blind obedience to mistaken judgments by the Pontiff is no virtue, not in God's eyes, not by the teachings of The Church. Our duty is not to churchmen if it becomes a matter of obeying them, or else obeying God and His Church. It's not unknown that heresies have taken on the names of the churchmen who invented them.

45 posted on 10/18/2004 4:11:31 PM PDT by sevry
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To: sevry
A shame you don't take my word for what I intended when I posted. Oh well. As for "taking rsponsibility" for it, I wrote in the same post "If that appears to be the case, then I apologize." Does that seem like an attempt to evade responsibility?

I take it that you see nothing "derisive" or disrespectful in your own words concerning the Holy Father?

Blind obedience to mistaken judgments by the Pontiff is no virtue, not in God's eyes, not by the teachings of The Church. Our duty is not to churchmen if it becomes a matter of obeying them, or else obeying God and His Church. It's not unknown that heresies have taken on the names of the churchmen who invented them.

If the Pope's writings and teachings are subject to your approval, then you are the Pope. It's that simple.

47 posted on 10/18/2004 4:28:36 PM PDT by marshmallow
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