Posted on 10/17/2004 3:32:54 PM PDT by NYer
After the Eucharist needs to come adoration. I'm gonna investigate doing a holy hour at a local parish that thankfully has Perpetual Adoration.
The Rosary is a great weapon against evil so every Catholic especially needs to enlist in this spiritual warfare.
Let's start by praying for the defeat of John Kerry, the prototypical Vatican II candidate: divorced, nuanced, contradictory, vague, ecumenical, doctrine-free, ambiguous, contra-traditional.
Not every Catholic has historically been below the poverty line. Again, you can't fool God. The Marian Psalter is called that for a reason. If one wishes to rebel against that, don't take God's Name in vain to do so. Understand the rebellion, and take responsibility. Don't think to say that - simply don't like any change - is somehow persuasive. Clinton talked about change. And he meant a change for the worse. And in the context of RVM, change can be holy - or unholy.
The Rosary is. Pray The Holy Rosary - not RVM. Do what Our Blessed Mother asks of us.
Please.
Do you consider it somehow blasphemous to 'focus' on Mary? Do you think she somehow detracts from God, if we 'focus' on her, in the Holy Rosary?
Think just about that. Don't dodge, and change the subject, and claim I'm saying Mary this, and God that. I'm not putting words in your mouth. Don't put them in mine. I'm just asking.
But here's the thing. You don't need to stop praying the old Rosary to start praying the new luminous mysteries. I'm not trying to be flip. As Catholics, we don't believe God stopped revealing Himself to us once the Bible was codified. I just can't see that it matters if we're over the number of psalms. And I also cannot see how meditating on the earthly ministry of Jesus can be a bad thing.
Of course not. But remember the Blessed Mother herself wants to lead us to her Son.
Do you think it detracts from Mary to focus on her Son?
"menacing shadows are gathering"
There's a B5 joke in here somewhere.
So John Paul II isn't the Pope. Go back and look at some of the things you have posted. The criticism of you seems quite accurate.
And there should be a "?" after the first sentence not a period.
You don't. At least not directly. You posted a comment which appeared to me to imply that the reception of congratulations from Muslim countries reflected negatively on the Pope. If that was not your intention then I withdraw my comment.
You are also on shaky ground in assuming that they recognise the One, True, God. If you feel like running with that one, I'm in the mood for a good long argument on the topic.
I'm sure you are. And I'll resist your attempt to draw me into one. At least on this thread. Other than to say that the Church has spoken on this subject and I hold with Her pronouncements on this issue. Perhaps my meaning would have been clearer had I said that many Muslims recognize in JPII a man who sincerely longs for the face of God, truth, justice and peace. My comment was not intended as a commentary on what Muslims do or do not worship.
And, on Iraq, he was flat-out wrong. The remainder of your argument simply doesn't hold up. It runs parallel to the specious Liberal notion of.... "If only the nasty West would refrain from resisting Islamic tyranny, they'd really get to like us and stop trying to kill us"
Every passing day shows that the Pope was correct. Last Friday, the first of Ramadan saw the bombing of 5 Christian churches. If you are a Christian, living in Iraq, there is absolutley no question that life is much, much worse than before our intervention. The ultimate form of government for this country is far from clear. As for "resisting Islamic tyranny", I could write an essay on this. Beginning with the Catholic conditions for a just war and whether they were satisfied in this case, moving on through just what a secular dictator like Hussein had to do with Islamic tyranny and ending on how a faithful Catholic or Christian should resist Islamic tyranny.
If you look at the activity of the insurgents in Iraq and today's pronouncements from Zarqawi, for instance, I'd say we've given Islamic tyranny a helping hand.
Touchy. I'm referring "derisively" to nobody. If that appears to be the case, then I apologize. When I said "people such as yourself", I was referring to people who themselves talk about the Pope in overly critical and derisive terms. As to whether you can do this and still be Catholic, that's best left to others to decide.
What do YOU . . know about St. Peter? What do you know about the Apostles? What do you know of the Church Fathers? Do you care? The councils? You care? I do. That's your answer. And you have to answer it for yourself.
My answer is to be loyal to the one whom the Holy Spirit has called to the Petrine office.
It was the eucharist that drew me to Catholicism, so it is particularly striking to me that this would be declared The Year of the Eucharist. I find the Pope's words so consistently refreshing and nourishing.
Welcome Home!
I love this part -- which I think is a quote from St. Athanasius, isn't it?
You are making this way too difficult.
I do manage to focus on the Mary's role in Salvation.
I also manage when I pray to let God give me insight and understanding. He's never failed yet to do so.
thank you.
>> If that was not your intention then I withdraw my comment. <<
No, it was not my intention. You are gracious in acknowledging that and I thank you for so doing.
>> Other than to say that the Church has spoken on this subject <<
Sorry, the Church has not spoken. The Pope offered a prudential judgement to which any Catholic should give serious weight and consideration BUT with which we are not bound to agree nor to adhere
>> Muslims recognize in JPII a man who sincerely longs for the face of God, truth, justice and peace <<
Not at all what your earlier comment asserted. And please, please do some serious reading on Islam (no sarcasm intended). I mean this as a genuine enjoinder. The Holy Father KNOWS who God is and He is not to be found in the false religion of Muhammad. Somehow, you also appear, here, to draw a distinction between God and "justice and peace". I will do you the courtesy of assuming that this was simple, unintended tautology on your part.
>> Every passing day shows that the Pope was correct <<
No it doesn't. It does show that your country and mine and a few others are taking the fight into the enemy's territory (and I don't mean the Iraqi people) rather than allow them the initiative of doing so on ours.
As a former soldier who had to fight on his own home turf, believe me I know whereof I speak - you won't like it when it comes.
And, as to Zarqawi, do you really perceive him to be some sort of Iraqi, maquis-like figure defending his country against the imperialist aggressor? Need I remind you of the theicide being perpetuated in Sudan and the daily massacres of Christians in Pakistan, Indonesia, The Philippines and elsewhere. If you would care to send me your essay on the topic, I'll gladly critique it.
No, my friend, Zarqawi and his ilk have already proffered you the option. A mihrab or a coffin. You choose.
BRAVO! Your statement was very balanced, rational, and clearly showed the reality of things. Thank you!
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