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To: megatherium

***Like did the Earth go zooming around the Sun really fast in pre-deluge times?***

Have you ever heard of Progeria?

It's the disease that causes children to age rapidly and have the body of a 70 year old at age 20.

Point being that you are assuming that things are continuing along just as the have been from the beginning.

Just like all intelleget people once thought that the speed of light was a constant...


84 posted on 08/29/2004 10:45:24 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Have you ever heard of Progeria?

This would not explain growth rings being doubled over a year. It would require cold and heat and super growth yearly, as well as the thermal shock from events that change temperature from 32F to 80F several times a day. This would change the rotation of the earth to the point that the shape of the Earth would be visibly different today.

Such a rate of heat change would alter the very soil and bedrock the tree grew in.

Just like all intelleget people once thought that the speed of light was a constant...

It is a constant. The speed of light in a vacuum is unalterable, 3x10^12 m/s.
94 posted on 08/29/2004 11:11:33 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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Just like all intelligent people once thought that the speed of light was a constant...

(eyes rolling) Not that hoary business again. The earliest several published measurements of the speed of light were several percent greater than the modern (extremely stable) value. So young-earth creationists decided that light was much faster a few tens of centuries ago. This explains why we can see galaxies that are millions of light years away. But that's a hell of an extrapolation! Physicists say that if the speed of light were higher, all the physics tied to it would change as well; the results would be tremendous. Chemistry, etc. wouldn't work properly.

But what I want to argue here is that we don't need to believe in a God who created a world that looks really old even though it is very young. We can believe in a God who created a beautiful world and universe that are intelligible to us -- everything makes good sense if you understand the science. No need for contrivance ("do you believe in progeria?"). Newton and the other great scientists who created the scientific revolution in the 17th century were all profoundly devout men. Modern science would not have arisen without the understanding that God created a universe amenable to human understanding. Newton thought he was learning about God by studying his creation. He was right.

103 posted on 08/29/2004 11:35:33 AM PDT by megatherium
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Just like all intelleget people once thought that the speed of light was a constant...

By definition, the speed of light in a vacuum is a constant.

137 posted on 08/29/2004 1:46:30 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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