I make no judgment on whether Pascendi is in communion with the Universal Church, visible or invisible. I have a hard time reconciling his belief that one must be visibly connected with the visible Church in order to obtain salvation with the clear teachings of St. Paul and Pio Nono, that there MIGHT be instances when those outside the visible Church might be saved through invisible bonds therewith. I have no connection with Steubenville, although I see no relevance one way or another. I suppose you are trying to perpetrate a slur on what would appear to be a perfectly orthodox Catholic institution, demonstrating once again that so-called "traditionalists" appear intent on attacking orthodox Catholics rather than the much larger group of "Catholic" universities infected with dissident modernist ideas.
I have a hard time reconciling his belief that one must be visibly connected with the visible Church in order to obtain salvation with the clear teachings of St. Paul and Pio Nono, that there MIGHT be instances when those outside the visible Church might be saved through invisible bonds therewith.
<I am certaing that Pascendi has no problems with the "rightly interpreted" statements of Pio Nono and St. Paul. Ultimately, you can speculate until hog heaven about one's "visible" or "invisible" connection the Church. Pio Nono also said in Pascendi that we may not maintain "good hope" for the eternal salvation of all those who die outside the visible structure of the Church. So balance Pio Nono's "implicit desire" statements with that. Also, Cardinal Manning has a great article available from Catholic Family News that rightly interprets "visible and invisible ignorance." I would highly recommend reading it as it addresses the very misinterpretations of this promulgated widely in today's Church.
I have no connection with Steubenville, although I see no relevance one way or another.
<I merely asked a question.
I suppose you are trying to perpetrate a slur on what would appear to be a perfectly orthodox Catholic institution, demonstrating once again that so-called "traditionalists" appear intent on attacking orthodox Catholics rather than the much larger group of "Catholic" universities infected with dissident modernist ideas.
<Nope. Wasn't going to do any of that. And don't worry, I will not "suppose you are trying to perpetrate a slur what would appear to be a perfecly orthodox Catholic..." by railing against Pascendi all of the time--merely based upon the fact you supposed something to be that was not true. I was not going to make any such slur.
In fact, if Catholic universities are infected by modernism (I'm certain EVEN your beloved Steubenville has modernist infestations), this would not be a "slur" to point them out. In any event, since you made the accusation, I thought I would clarify for you.
Pascendi, thanks for the catch on "one mortal sin sends one to HELL," not heaven as I miswrote.
Unam... Care to address any of the substance below? Any of it?
So now you want to play games with what the "Church" is, right. Want to talk about "is" and "subsists"? One thing I find quite interesting is that the documents of Vatican II speak much about "the pilgrim Church" and the "People of God," but not at all (although there are allusions to it in one of the documents;perhaps Lumen Gentium) the Church Suffering and the Church Triumphant. All Vatican II talks about is the current Church Militant, without of course ever using that offensive word. Next, we have to get into the minuscule dissection of those "imperfectly united" to the Catholic Church through Baptism. Are they part of the Catholic Church and the Mystical Body of Christ? What if they consciously reject doctrines of the Faith and want nothing whatsoever to do with submission to their Catholic Bishop or the Pope? Then, are they still somehow "imperfectly connected"? They have no Sacrament of Penance. This stuff is just crazy. They have changed the entire vocabulary and have based their theology on reinterpreting firm Catholic doctrine and dogma, with a false "postivistic" psychology. One drop of cyanide in a full glass of milk KILLS the person who drinks it. Parts of people who are "imperfectly in communion" with the Church will not go to heaven while other parts of them go to hell. It takes ONE mortal sin, unconfessed, to send a person to heaven.