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A New Breed of Priest
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 31, 2004 | Teresa Watanabe

Posted on 08/02/2004 8:21:41 AM PDT by CatherineSiena

Edited on 08/02/2004 12:08:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

It's hard to miss Father Marcos Gonzalez, who wears an ankle-length black cassock every day, a garment most priests tossed out decades ago. But it's not just his clothes that bespeak an older, more traditional era of his Roman Catholic Church.

When some priests spoke in favor of optional celibacy at a Los Angeles priest assembly last year — a position supported by most American Catholics today — Gonzalez booed in dissent. In premarital counseling, he tells couples to remain chaste until marriage, plunging into delicate territory some priests prefer to avoid. Gonzalez also believes artificial birth control and gay sex are always a sin and opposes women's ordination.

Such stances conform with Vatican teachings, he says, but are at odds with many American priests and lay people.

Yet Gonzalez, an associate pastor at St. Andrew Church in Pasadena, is hardly a relic from a fading past. At 41, he offers one glimpse of the future as a member of a new breed of younger priests ordained during the 25-year papacy of Pope John Paul II and passionately committed to the pope's orthodox teachings.

As the health of John Paul — now 84 and the third-longest serving pontiff in history — continues to falter, men like Gonzalez stand ready to guard and propagate his legacy. They represent a global trend toward Christian orthodoxy, in contrast to a generation of more liberal priests ordained during the 1960s reforms of the Second Vatican Council.

"We are very, very faithful to the Holy Father and not in any way dissenting from the teachings of the church," Gonzalez says of like-minded colleagues.

The emergence of these young conservatives has set off a flurry of studies, books and debate about what effect they will have on the nation's 62 million Roman Catholics, its largest religious denomination.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 08/02/2004 8:21:45 AM PDT by CatherineSiena
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To: CatherineSiena

"They aim for nothing less than to reshape the face of the American Catholic priesthood."

The same could be said about the SSPX - except they're less liberal than Pope John Paul 2 - and are reshaping not only the American priesthood, but every other continent as well.


2 posted on 08/02/2004 9:24:14 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: CatherineSiena
Linda Pieczynski, national spokeswoman for the liberal ####"Catholic reform group Call to Action, said that in parishes across the country, young conservatives have reportedly adopted an old-style "father knows best" attitude and made abrupt changes without adequate consultation with lay members. Women lay ministers in particular say many newly ordained priests have difficulty accepting them as colleagues, showing a lack of respect and excessive concern for power and authority, according to a 2001 study by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."#####

Since when does the priest need to consult with lay members?

I never knew a priest who considered women lay ministers as colleagues?

This lady has illusions of grandeur forced upon herself by her egoism.
3 posted on 08/02/2004 11:37:05 AM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: AskStPhilomena
The SSPX is reshaping nothing, Phil, except its own small sphere. It's amazing how many integrists think their influence is so much greater than it actually is. 99% of Catholics aren't even aware of the SSPX.

As to Gonzalez, I notice he's a priest in Los Angeles.

Ordained by that mean old lefty, Roger Mahoney.

4 posted on 08/02/2004 11:52:41 AM PDT by sinkspur (It is time to breed the dangerous Pit Bull Terrier out of existence!)
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To: CatherineSiena

**When some priests spoke in favor of optional celibacy at a Los Angeles priest assembly last year — a position supported by most American Catholics today — Gonzalez booed in dissent.**

This man is a tall man in my mind! Think of it -- in Los Angeles!


6 posted on 08/02/2004 12:18:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: CatherineSiena

Will it be OK with you if I add the words Catholic List to the keywords?

That is the new way that FR is tracking articles now...........always needs to be included on any Catholic Article!


7 posted on 08/02/2004 12:20:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: CatherineSiena

Thanks for the article- Wonderful- I am looking forward to the next generation of Bishops and Cardinals.


8 posted on 08/02/2004 12:20:47 PM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; goldenstategirl; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

9 posted on 08/02/2004 12:21:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Fast Ed97

**I am looking forward to the next generation of Bishops and Cardinals.**

I'll second that idea!


10 posted on 08/02/2004 12:23:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: franky

I think the
Catholics-In-Name-Only
should be known as

"catholics Without Borders"

due to
the seemingly limitless girth
of the aging boomer membership,
and to their
"no bondaries" attitude
regarding doctrine.


11 posted on 08/02/2004 12:29:28 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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To: sandyeggo

ARTICLE: "...however, the "John Paul priests" are less supportive than older colleagues of optional celibacy, women priests, the democratic elections of bishops and greater lay leadership."

IN PLAIN ENGLISH: these priests are not heretics


12 posted on 08/02/2004 12:31:17 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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To: CatherineSiena

Sounds great, and I can cheer this priest and those like him! Wish there were more of them and that they were further up in the hierarchy!


13 posted on 08/02/2004 12:46:44 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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I have a related experience to report: at my [former] local parish, a new priest, 28 years old and newly ordained, was dispatched. At one point I complained to him about the bad teaching that was shoved down my throat when I was younger. He replied in a disgusted tone: "that's the milk and cookies Jesus they give you. My religious education sucked too." On another occasion, I got the distinct impression that he was one of the meanies in favor of denying Communion to pro-aborts. Unfortunately, he is only an "associate pastor". The priest in charge is 60 years old. He lets girls "move liturgically" all over the alter, and substitutes the word 'forgive' for 'absolve' in the sacramental formula (no act of contrition required, either) . I have a feeling that if we are vigilant for the next few years, these younger priests will take over control and the Church will be able to rest her eyes a little. There's hope!
14 posted on 08/02/2004 12:58:24 PM PDT by Lilllabettt
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On another occasion, I got the distinct impression that he was one of the meanies in favor of denying Communion to pro-aborts.

If a priest is a "meanie" for denying Our Lord's Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, to a unrepetent public sinner of ANY sort, then we need more "meanies!"

15 posted on 08/02/2004 1:14:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Indeed we need more of these priests, and will have many more of them in the future soon, as the liberals die off. The problem these younger ones have now is that of having to skirt the liberal superior they deal with, in order to properly say mass, teach the faith, etc. They have a valiant struggle.


16 posted on 08/02/2004 1:30:11 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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"The problem these younger ones have now is that of having to skirt the liberal superior they deal with, in order to properly say mass, teach the faith, etc. They have a valiant struggle."

Sadly, you are correct. Fr. Stravinskas had an editorial in one of his last issues of "The Catholic Answer" chronicling just this fact. Some of these young men are LEAVING the priesthood after five years or so because of the Fr. Groovies and Sister Issues they have to deal with.

Sad.


17 posted on 08/02/2004 1:37:35 PM PDT by undirish01 (Go Irish! If only we can get the theology dept. turned around.)
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To: All; livius; chemicalman; Notwithstanding; PadreL; nickcarraway; NYer; Polycarp IV; ninenot; ...
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18 posted on 08/02/2004 1:56:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Lilllabettt
I was hoping for an epiphany in my parish as well. Our very sweet but very liberal priest just retired. The new priest came in with an ethnic name (I was praying that he would be like the priest at the very traditional local Slavic parish)and the rumor of being younger. Right.
This Sunday, still the altar girls, still the glass on the altar and still the holding and lifting hands for the Our Father (even the priest). He announced during the homily that he had been a priest for 37 years. My hopes were dashed.
19 posted on 08/02/2004 2:27:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom ("We haven't begun military action. the world will know when we do." -Marine in Fallujah)
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To: CatherineSiena; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...
At 41, he offers one glimpse of the future as a member of a new breed of younger priests ordained during the 25-year papacy of Pope John Paul II and passionately committed to the pope's orthodox teachings.

I have repeatedly heard on EWTN, similar stories from young men who were "called" to the priesthood during the pope's visit to Denver.

God has carefully watched over, nurtured and fed this new crop of priests. To Him be the glory now and forever, Amen!

20 posted on 08/02/2004 3:22:05 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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