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To: Grey Ghost II
Sorry but I trust the Palm Beach County chad counters more than the College of Cardinals.

OK.

Then you have no way of ever ascertaining who is Pope and who isn't, and therefore there is no point in being a Catholic.

The Orthodox don't believe Mary was free from original sin. They also believe artifical birth control is not always sinful, and John Paul II says we shouldn't proseltize? That my friend, contradicts Catholic teaching.

Rejecting forms of proselytism which are perceived as disrespectful is not contrary to Catholic teaching.

The Church chooses now, as it chose in the 1200s to approach the issue of reconciliation between the Catholics and the Orthodox on the highest level rather than sending out missionaries.

The fact that the Orthodox find themselves in doctrinal error does not mean that the Church is not allowed to make prudential decisions in its methodology for bringing them back into the fold.

It also incorrectly states that the joint declaration "encompasses a consensus on basic truths of the doctrine of justification and shows that the remaining differences are no longer the occasion for doctrinal condemnations.”

That is, the Lutherans now accept that the grace of salvation precedes any personal act or profession of faith - that it is God's grace which saves and not simply the personal mental state of the believer.

It also means that the doctrinal errors of the Lutherans do not require any new condemnations of their teachings - the Church's position has already been substantially stated. Nothing new about Lutheran errors was discovered which would occasion some further condemnation.

57 posted on 07/07/2004 10:58:00 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
Then you have no way of ever ascertaining who is Pope and who isn't, and therefore there is no point in being a Catholic.

Wrong. You trust that he is the Pope and you maintain the Faith. When that man, however, does things that are so damaging to the Faith that his actions peril millions of souls, you take a step back and question. That's all I'm doing is questioning. I would like to believe that he is the Pope, but I have yet to see a srong argument that he is. Just lot's of name-calling and conjecture. That makes me even more suspicious.

65 posted on 07/07/2004 11:17:18 AM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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