Posted on 07/05/2004 11:38:35 AM PDT by Saint Athanasius
Ping if you are interested on what the Cardinal has to say.
I agree with you and Dulles.
I thought his first two critiques were out of bounds...
"In the first place, the bishop may be ACCUSED, however unfairly, of trying to coerce the politician's conscience"
In both instances, Cardinal Dulles said they may be accused...
He did not say that He agreed with the logic of the accusation...
Am I wrong here?
Communion debate ping.
Check out the article by Fr. Dulles and the critique linked from post #3.
Tried. Dead link.
Leave it to Cardinal Dulles to put it so accurately and succinctly!
Cardinal Avery Dulles is encouraging U.S. bishops to dialogue with dissenting Catholic politicians about their moral responsibilities before advising them [not] to [] receive Communion.... In moral theology an important distinction is made between ordering or performing an action and cooperating in the action of another. Where the cooperation is remote, its influence on the effect may be very slight.It is true that where cooperation is remote, its influence on the evil act may be slight; however, it is also true that where the intent of the cooperative agent is explicitly or implicitly identical to the evil intent of the principal agent, the cooperative agent's intent is sinful per se, irrespective of its proximate or remote influence on the principal agent's evil act.
What is the difference between having ACT-UP members stomp on the Host at St. Patrick's and having the Host consumed by John Kerry? Anyone believing Christ is present in the Eucharist wouldn't dance around the issue the way Dulles does.
I'm glad this invertebrate was promoted to Cardinal when he was too old to elect the next Pope.
I know people who receive the Eucharist despite serious sins on their soul because it is embarrassing to sit in the pews while other people pass you to receive. While I believe they commit a more serious sin by receiving in this state, the idea of avoiding a scene is just an extension of their own erroneous thinking...
Tuco,
You should be more respectful to those who are Persona Christi.
What is the difference between sacrilege of a sacrament and sacrilege of a person? (especially one that is a loyal son of the Church).
Be careful of what you say.
Just answer the question; souls are being lost by the second because of the damage done by these "shepherds" when they don't tend to their flock.
And don't refer to Dulles as Persona Christi...
He is hardly something against which sacrilege can be committed.
I don't think the good Cardinal dances around the issue...
Just because he answers the question the way you don't want him to doesn't mean he dances around the question.
By the way, are you Donatist?
Once a priest always a priest.
No, I'm not.
How will the hierarchy answer for all of those souls that have been lost due to poor leadership? They don't answer questions in ways that I disagree with; THEY DON'T ANSWER THEM AT ALL. With each passing day, people pass on to their judgement, without having clear leadership to help them on a path on which Christ Himself assured us most of would not make it to the Father.
How do you excuse these people? Some may have been wonderful priests; few are worth anything as leaders beyond that limited role.
Tuco, repent!
This is GOOD!
Judge not lest ye be judged...
They will answer to God... they don't answer to you.
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