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To: Arguss
IF using birth control is genuinely a sin, then so is NFP.

Its safe to assume you are a sedevacantist, then? Because NFP has been taught as morally licit in grave circumstances by quite a few recent Popes now.

8 posted on 07/04/2004 2:04:43 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV; Maximilian; Canticle_of_Deborah; ultima ratio; AAABEST; Land of the Irish; ...
Not my field of expertise, but below is an essay by the Rev. Anthony Cekada against those condemning NFP, which I suppose is in support of NFP- as long as cetain conditions are met.

As background, Fr. Cekada was one of "the nine" Anerican priests expelled from the SSPX in 1983 by Abp. Lefebvre for continuing to offer the unadulerated rite of the traditional Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, i.e. pre-Bugnini. Fr. Cekada is curate to Bp. Dolan at Saint Gertrude the Great Church in the Cincinnati suburbs. They either hold that the see is impeded or the see is vacant due to pre-existing heresy by the one elected.

Tradtional Mass Articles

Saint Gertrude the Great Church

Natural Family Planning: On Recent Condemnations of NFP

by Rev. Anthony Cekada

NOTE: In Fall, 1998 the “Voice Crying in the Wilderness” newsletter, a widely-circulated traditionalist periodical, published an article condemning Natural Family Planning (NFP).The following is a letter to the Editor, written by Father Anthony Cekada. In addition to offering the traditional Latin Mass in Cincinnati and Columbus, Father Cekada is professor of canon law and pastoral theology at Most Holy Trinity Seminary, Warren, Michigan.

To the Editor:

This afternoon I spoke with a parishioner who was very upset over your article on Natural Family Planning (NFP).

I had to assure her (as I will probably have to assure others) that your comments were —and there is no diplomatic way to put this — presumptuous, ignorant and dangerous.

First, you have no business even offering an opinion on the morality of NFP, still less condemning it as sinful in a publication that you send out to tens of thousands of people.

One may indeed (as you do in other articles) catalogue, dissect and condemn the Modernists’ doctrinal errors, since so many of them are obvious and have already been condemned. But the morality of NFP is an issue for moral theology — the branch of theology which analyzes right and wrong, virtue and sin.

The subject matter of moral theology is vast and enormously complex, covering all the general principles of morality and all their particular applications. In the seminary moral theology is one of the major courses. It requires three or four years’ worth of classes conducted several times a week to cover all the material.

Despite the length of this course, it can only impart to the priest-to-be the mere “basics” for the confessional and counselling. Priests who wrote on moral issues before Vatican II — and it was only priests who were permitted to become moral theologians — always had advanced degrees.

Their books were carefully checked by their religious superiors and diocesan censors.

If moral theologians did any speculative writing, it never appeared in popular publications such as yours.

You have no training in, and no experience dealing with, a complex moral question like NFP. We traditional Catholic priests have studied moral theology and we apply it in the confessional and in counselling. Leave such matters to us — and leave our people alone.

Second, although moral theology manuals emphasize that NFP is not a topic one should discuss in sermons or mass-circulation publications, The Angelus, The Remnant, and your own publication have spread some dangerous errors on the issue, and it is necessary that someone correct them, lest Catholics wrongly conclude they are committing mortal sin.

The moral aspect of NFP and periodic continence may be summed up as follows:

1. General Principles.

Spouses are free to choose whatever time they want to exercise their marriage right or abstain from exercising their marriage right by mutual consent.

Conversely, they are not obliged to exercise their right during fertile periods, or abstain during sterile periods.

Deliberately to limit marital relations to sterile periods to avoid conception is morally lawful in actual practice, provided the requisite conditions are met.

Family limitation without good and sufficient reason involves a degree of moral fault.

Periodic continence is morally permissible because it fulfills the other ends of marriage (mutual love and fidelity, alleviation of concupiscence) and because it does not physically hinder the natural processes of conception.

2. Requisite Conditions.

Mutual consent or willingness of the spouses.

Ability properly to observe periodic continence without danger of sin.

Sufficient justification or cause, just and grave, either medical, eugenic, economic, or social, which justifications are outlined by various theologians.

3. Gravity of the Various Obligations.

The issues involved with NFP were not fully discussed by pre-Vatican II theologians.

The gravity of an obligation (if any) to exercise the marriage right during fertile periods was not clearly established.

Neither was the gravity of the unjustifiable use of periodic abstinence.

Do not presume that the defection of the post-Vatican II hierarchy gives you the right to settle all this, and then tell Catholic couples they are committing sin. Your article was ill-advised and very harmful. I suggest you issue a retraction and an apology to your readers.

— The Rev. Anthony Cekada
(September 1998)

11 posted on 07/04/2004 3:11:36 PM PDT by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Polycarp IV
"Its safe to assume you are a sedevacantist, then?"

Extremely poor form my man. What has the Popes apostacy have to do with sedevacantism? I thought you were a knowledgeable person, I guess I had you confused with someone else.

"Because NFP has been taught as morally licit in grave circumstances by quite a few recent Popes now."

Which Popes would that be? specifically

20 posted on 07/04/2004 7:35:35 PM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Polycarp IV

"sedevacantist" is a new word, and I can't find it on the Miriam-Webster online. Could you define it?


32 posted on 07/04/2004 9:26:15 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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