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To: Romulus; Marcellinus; sinkspur

In an unrelated thread, but on this topic, the following was posted about my claim that "mutual submission of spouses" was a liberal concept.-

"The apostle Paul himself calls for mutual subjection of spouses, and the Fathers of the Church have always accepted that marriage is a mutual undertaking and not a master/servant relationship. The obedience of a Christian wife is freely willed, grounded in her husband's complete dedication to her, a true icon of Christ's kenotic sacrifice. To reduce this to a juridical establishment of power relationships is to play right into the hands of secular feminism -- not to mention a satanic misrepresentation of all creation as master and slave, predator and prey."

That was not the only complaint that I received regarding this. But first I must address the above:

A. I don't recall ever going into anything about master and slave, or predator and prey, nor any of the other things of that sort implied here.

B. The teachings of Paul and of the Fathers, as can be seen in this article, do not support the idea of mutual subjection of spouses, as it was claimed in the above statement.

I would repeat my claim, then, that the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church has always been that the wife is to be subject to the husband, as the church is subject to Christ; and the husband should love the wife, as Christ loves the Church.


3 posted on 06/16/2004 2:36:46 PM PDT by bonaventura
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To: bonaventura
I would repeat my claim, then, that the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church has always been that the wife is to be subject to the husband.

Practically, most right-thinking spouses work this out for themselves. As you've already found, there don't seem to be as many females who will "submit" themselves, in every single decision to a spouse.

If you find one, and this is your primary criterion, perhaps you should grab her, so long as she doesn't have her fingers crossed behind her back.

6 posted on 06/16/2004 2:52:39 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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