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To paraphrase something Christopher Ferrara stated recently--what other council in the history of the Church other than Vatican II has ever led to such a radical change in Catholic belief? And why won't this same bishop--who permitted Hindu priests to worship their gods at a Catholic altar and who bowed politely to Hindu priests and who allowed himself to be wrapped in a Hindu Bagavad Gita-inscribed shawl--allow a Tridentine Mass to be said in his diocese?
1 posted on 06/07/2004 12:54:27 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio

For those who missed the irony of my question--there has been no actual change in Catholic belief, no matter how many Buddhists the Pope hugs and how many Hindus this bishop bows to. The purported change in belief is a heresy, pure and simple.


2 posted on 06/07/2004 12:57:22 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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Please cite an objective source, not the "Portuguese News" or other Lefebvrist propaganda sheets, that these alleged events are facts and not fantasies.


3 posted on 06/07/2004 7:00:53 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ultima ratio
what other council in the history of the Church other than Vatican II has ever led to such a radical change in Catholic belief?

Why did Msgr. Lefebvre sign all the "radical" Vatican II documents? This must be an example of what led to such a radical change:

This missionary activity derives its reason from the will of God, "who wishes all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Himself a man, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself as a ransom for all" (1 Tim. 2:45), "neither is there salvation in any other" (Acts 4:12). Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. And hence missionary activity today as always retains its power and necessity. (Ad gentes, 7)

And why won't this same bishop ... allow a Tridentine Mass to be said in his diocese?

Probably too "fundamentalist". But have any Catholics asked to have a Tridentine said?

5 posted on 06/07/2004 7:32:24 AM PDT by gbcdoj
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Didn't Mother Theresa worship there with the Hindu's or participated in a Hindu service in India? I thought I read that she did.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 3:59:56 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Portugal: Hindu Ceremony at Fatima

The Abomination of Desolation certainly appears to have entered the Fatima sanctuary.

Its one thing to converse with non-Christian religions, and recognize what "truths" may be found within their philosophies. Its another thing altogether to allow them to perform religious ceremonies within the sanctuary.

Seems to me this Church will need to be purified and re consecrated following this?

29 posted on 06/10/2004 4:47:53 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: ultima ratio
And why won't this same bishop--who permitted Hindu priests to worship their gods at a Catholic altar and who bowed politely to Hindu priests and who allowed himself to be wrapped in a Hindu Bagavad Gita-inscribed shawl--allow a Tridentine Mass to be said in his diocese?

Flat out, he has got to be an infiltrator, "sent" to help destroy The Church. At least "the enemy" is exposing (it)self.

31 posted on 06/10/2004 5:23:12 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism..." M.G.)
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