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To: RFT1

Those who call it "inferior" are particularly concerned about a few major items, e.g., the significantly-altered Offertory prayers, the lack of Ps. 42 at the entrance, the single "Domine, non sum dignus..." before Communion, and some other less obvious and less major items--such as the fact that the readings are NOT done in Latin.

But on the whole, you are correct; the Latin rendition of the NO is very much like the 1962 Rite.


18 posted on 06/02/2004 8:14:42 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot

Again, while I do wish the 62 missal(with the option for some vernacular) restored as the prime missal, Psalm 42 is especially neede dto be heard today, just look at again the Dominican rite missal, that I posted earlier in this thread. I had an offertory shorter than the Novus Ordo, and it had no prayers at the Foot of the altar.

http://members.aol.com/liturgialatina/dominican/mass_ordinary.htm

On Rubrics of course, I think the Tridentine rubrics should be fully restored to be the norm.

As for your Archbishop, he face sthe situation of being given a house that has been trashed, and tenants who wont leave.


19 posted on 06/02/2004 8:28:27 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: ninenot; RFT1

"But on the whole, you are correct; the Latin rendition of the NO is very much like the 1962 Rite."

This is nonsense. There is a radical difference between the two Masses. Merely because the N.O. is rendered in Latin does not make it any less deficient than the version in the vernacular. It has not simply altered the Offertory--it has junked it altogether--just as Martin Luther had done--and this is a fact whether in Latin or in any other language. It has exchanged the sacrificial structure for a structure predicated on a memorial meal--exactly as Protestant liturgies do, in open contradiction to the mandates of Trent. Neither does it express adequately the propitiatory purpose of the Mass as mandated by Trent, even as it subverts the dogma of Transubstantiation--exactly as the vernacular does. Worst of all, its notion of sacrifice is Protestant, not Catholic, since it is a "sacrifice" of thanksgiving and praise, not that of an actual immolation--just as in a Lutheran worship service. In fact, its only advance on the vernacular version is its less pedestrian language--but this is only a minor advantage. It remains dangerous to the Catholic faith.


25 posted on 06/04/2004 7:10:31 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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