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To: catonsville
Descriptions of NDEs have been so widely published for so long that no 'testimony' of this sort can be regarded, on the basis of choosing the simplest explanation, as anything except a false memory induced by urban myth.

That said, accounts of NDEs from before they became so widely discussed do sound a lot like this.

6 posted on 02/04/2004 5:46:07 PM PST by Grut
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That said, accounts of NDEs from before they became so widely discussed do sound a lot like this...twenty years or so ago I was doing some counselling with a couple, both of whom were of limited intellect. The woman in fact had spent some time in an institution for the retarded, although whether she was really at that level of intelligence or more likely a "burned-out" psychotic was never clear. In any event she was not the type who spent much time if any reading or watching TV any more informative than the typical soap opera. But one day she recounted the story of how she had once been in a terrible automobile accident and was taken to an emergency room where she had to be resuscitated. And she included in her tale the most common elements of the NDE - rising from her body, seeing herself on the treatment table, and seeing a bright light far away toward which she felt drawn. She insisted that this had actually happened to her, and given her limited intellectual capacity I have trouble believing that she had read or heard this somewhere and would have been able to recall it in such detail. Sure has made me wonder.....
42 posted on 02/04/2004 9:17:14 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Descriptions of NDEs have been so widely published for so long that no 'testimony' of this sort can be regarded, on the basis of choosing the simplest explanation, as anything except a false memory induced by urban myth.

How is the implantation of a false memory a simpler solution than that the accounts of the experience are genuine?


52 posted on 02/04/2004 10:13:11 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: Grut
Descriptions of NDEs have been so widely published for so long that no 'testimony' of this sort can be regarded, on the basis of choosing the simplest explanation, as anything except a false memory induced by urban myth.

Your statement makes no sense. Have you read any books about the subject? People from every walk of life, readers and non-readers, religious people and atheists, Christians and Hindus, people from various countries and cultures, all report such experiences.

Myth? The real myth is that death of the body means cessation of existence.

54 posted on 02/04/2004 10:27:04 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Grut
Descriptions of NDEs have been so widely published for so long that no 'testimony' of this sort can be regarded, on the basis of choosing the simplest explanation, as anything except a false memory induced by urban myth.

Or maybe it's due to a Jungian "collective subconscious." A more academic explanation than "urban myth." But no less lazy, irrational, and unscientific. What induced the "urban myth"? How far back in time can NDE's be attested? And how widely can they be attested, in both literate and non-literate societies?

55 posted on 02/04/2004 11:45:00 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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