[P-Marlowe]

I think Mr. Watson's premises are as speculative as mine. I do not limit God's ability to dwell in eternity. While events in time do occur in sequence and I would agree occur only in accordance with God's will, I do not believe that God inhabits time as we do. He inhabits eternity. I believe that one reason that man cannot look upon God and live is not only because he is so holy, but because looking upon God would require that we enter into eternity and that would probably cause all of the atoms in our bodies to explode at the speed of light.

Safety point guys, Don't cross the streams. Also, do not look directly at God while dwelling in a temporal body.

[xzins]

This is sort of neat, this new atmosphere, being able to discuss ideas/thoughts/wonderings and not be called a godless liar for every 3rd word that you pen.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for the ping to your engaging discussion!

At the incarnation Jesus left eternity and entered into the dimension of time. The Father and Holy Spirit remained in eternity. Now if you read the scriptures you find something very odd about Jesus, that you would not expect from God. Jesus didn't know everything. He didn't know the future. He knew only what the Father revealed to him. When asked when it was that he was going to return, he gave an honest answer that only the Father had that information. Thus from the perspective of "time", the date of that event had not been determined, but from the perspective of eternity, the date had been predestined by God's foreknowledge.

Great catch and a very important observation!

My two cents: Jesus was alive in the Spirit while He was also “in” the physical realm. In a like fashion, this is the transcendent feeling I experience from being born again (John 3). But Jesus was, of course, much much more than this. His memory was instant, knowing the Father, their experiences, and from whence He came and where He would return and why. Although Christ is the first and through Him everything that was made, was made (John 1) and although He and the Father are One (John 17) – and although Christ is the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person (Hebrews 1:2) - Jesus also makes it clear that all that He is and all that He knows is according to the Father’s discretion (John 5) Therefore, it does not surprise me that there are certain things the Father has chosen to keep to Himself.

One other point, Jesus said it was necessary for Him to return to the Father in order for the Comforter to be sent to us. (John 16:7) I’m still praying and meditating on why this was so.

The Grammarian: Thank you so much for the url! Sleep well!