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GRPL THREAD: "Great Quotes about Calvin & Calvinism" [Resumed]

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:57:00 AM PST by drstevej

GRPL THREAD: "Great Quotes about Calvin & Calvinism" [Resumed]

The thread is established to compile an anthology of great quotes about Calvin and Calvinism.

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Reminder About The Smokey Backroom
 

Posted on 01/22/2004 10:03:07 AM CST by I Am Not A Mod

... Also, some people get mad when discussions get moved to the backroom. If a thread gets moved, but you think the article really should be in the main forum, then post the article again, and add a note reminding people to maintain decorum on the thread and give a link to the backroomed thread for those who find that simple request to be too much to ask.

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"Dear, dear Sir, O be not offended! For Christ's sake be not rash! Give yourself to reading. Study the covenant of grace. Down with your carnal reasoning. Be a little child; and then, instead of pawning your salvation, as you have done in a late hymn book, if the doctrine of universal redemption be not true; instead of talking of sinless perfection, as you have done in the preface to that hymn book, and making man's salvation to depend on his own free will, as you have in this sermon; you will compose a hymn in praise of sovereign distinguishing love. You will caution believers against striving to work a perfection out of their own hearts, and print another sermon the reverse of this, and entitle it "Free Grace Indeed." Free, not because free to all; but free, because God may withhold or give it to whom and when he pleases."

 

George Whitefield to John Wesley
 

1 posted on 01/23/2004 5:57:01 AM PST by drstevej
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; jude24; AZhardliner; ...
GRPL Ping to resumed thread... add your quotes.
2 posted on 01/23/2004 5:58:14 AM PST by drstevej
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It would seem that any great Predestinarian Reformer in the entire history of the church should be acceptable. Are we limited only to Calvinists?

Your friendly neighborhood Cordial Calvinist
Woody.
3 posted on 01/23/2004 6:36:42 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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To: CCWoody
Predestinarian Reformers are quite welcome.
4 posted on 01/23/2004 6:37:45 AM PST by drstevej
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"Who is regulating affairs on this earth today-God, or the Devil? What impression is made upon the minds of those men of the world who, occasionally, attend a Gospel service? What are the conceptions formed by those who hear even those preachers who are counted as "orthodox?" Is it not that a disappointed God is the One whom Christians believe in? From what is heard from the average evangelist today, is not any serious hearer obliged to conclude that he professes to represent a God who is filled with benevolent intentions, yet unable to carry them out; that He is earnestly desirous of blessing men, but that they will not let Him? Then, must not the average hearer draw the inference that the Devil has gained the upper hand, and that God is to be pitied rather than blamed?

But does not everything seem to show that the Devil has far more to do with the affairs of earth than God has? Ah, it all depends upon whether we are walking by faith, or walking by sight. Are your thoughts, my reader, concerning this world and God's relation to it, based upon what you see? Face this question seriously and honestly. And if you are a Christian you will, most probably, have cause to bow your head with shame and sorrow, and to acknowledge that it is so. Alas, in reality, we walk very little "by faith." But what does "walking by faith" signify? It means that our thoughts are formed, our actions regulated, our lives molded by the Holy Scriptures, for, "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom. 10:17). It is from the Word of Truth, and that alone, that we can learn what is God's relation to this world.

A. W. Pink, from the introduction to "The Sovereignty of God"

I just read this for the first time last night...it was electrifying.

5 posted on 01/23/2004 6:40:55 AM PST by jboot (Faith is not a work.)
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To: jboot
Just wait. Pink gets better....
6 posted on 01/23/2004 6:57:40 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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I can hardly wait. I'm reading Pink's "SOG" and Wilson's "Easy Chairs, Hard Words" at the same time. They go well together.
7 posted on 01/23/2004 7:08:48 AM PST by jboot (Faith is not a work.)
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To: drstevej
"It is Augustine who gave us the Reformation." So wrote B. B. Warfield in his assessment of the influence of Augustine on church history. It is not only that Luther was an Augustinian monk, or that Calvin quoted Augustine more than any other theologian that provoked Warfield's remark. Rather, it was that the Reformation witnessed the ultimate triumph of Augustine's doctrine of grace over the legacy of the Pelagian view of man.

Humanism, in all its subtle forms, recapitulates the unvarnished Pelagianism against which Augustine struggled. Though Pelagius was condemned as a heretic by Rome, and its modified form, Semi-Pelagianism was likewise condemned by the Council of Orange in 529, the basic assumptions of this view persisted throughout church history to reappear in Medieval Catholicism, Renaissance Humanism, Socinianism, Arminianism, and modern Liberalism. The seminal thought of Pelagius survives today not as a trace or tangential influence but is pervasive in the modern church. Indeed, the modern church is held captive by it. ~ R.C. Sproul Augustine and Pelagius


Shower us with Your dew, O Father, and grant us yet another Reformation. As Your children were once captive in Babylon, we are captive in the church of Pelagius. Shower us with Your grace. For the sake of Your Name and Truth let us see Your face again.
8 posted on 01/23/2004 7:25:09 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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The prayer that sparked
a
Reformation


"Grant what Thou commandest, and command what Thou dost desire." ~ Augustine's prayer at Rome
9 posted on 01/23/2004 7:37:25 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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Yet if by these ye will not be reformed by me, but walke stubburnly against me, Then wil I also walke stubburnly against you, and I will smite you yet seuen times for your sinnes:
(Lev 26:23-24 GB)
10 posted on 01/23/2004 7:39:44 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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“Predestination is the preparation for grace, while grace is the donation itself.” ~ Augustine
11 posted on 01/23/2004 7:43:16 AM PST by drstevej
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"But we say," say they, "that God did not foreknow anything as ours except that faith by which we begin to believe, and that He chose and predestinated us before the foundation of the world, in order that we might be holy and immaculate by His grace and by His work." But let them also hear in this testimony the words where he says, "We have obtained a lot, being predestinated according to His purpose who worketh all things. He, therefore, worketh the beginning of our belief who worketh all things; because faith itself does not precede that calling of which it is said: "For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance;" and of which it is said: "Not of works, but of Him that calleth"; and the election which the Lord signified when He said: "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you." For He chose us, not because we believed, but that we might believe, lest we should be said first to have chosen Him, and so His word be false (which be it far from us to think possible), "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you." Neither are we called because we believed, but that we may believe; and by that calling which is without repentance it is effected and carried through that we should believe. But all the many things which we have said concerning this matter need not to be repeated. ~ Bishop Saint Augustine of Hippo
12 posted on 01/23/2004 9:01:45 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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To: drstevej
read later
13 posted on 01/23/2004 10:29:51 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: drstevej
O thou poor distressed soul! whoever thou art, consider that Christ mentions thy very case when he calls to them who labor and are heavy laden! How he repeatedly promises you rest if you come to him! In the 28th verse he says, "I will give you rest." And in the 29th verse, "Ye shall find rest to your souls." This is what you want. This is the thing you have been so long in vain seeking after. O how sweet would rest be to you, if you could but obtain it! Come to Christ, and you shall obtain it. And hear how Christ, to encourage you, represents himself as a lamb! He tells you, that he is meek and lowly in heart, and are you afraid to come to such a one! And again, Rev. 3:20. "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and I will sup with him and he with me." Christ condescends not only to call you to him, but he comes to you; he comes to your door, and there knocks. He might send an officer and seize you as a rebel and vile malefactor, but instead of that, he comes and knocks at your door, and seeks that you would receive him into your house, as your Friend and Savior. And he not only knocks at your door, but he stands there waiting, while you are backward and unwilling. And not only so, but he makes promises what he will do for you, if you will admit him, what privileges he will admit you to; he will sup with you, and you with him.

Jonathan Edwards, The Excellency of Christ

14 posted on 01/23/2004 4:32:44 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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Are you joining the GRPL?
15 posted on 01/23/2004 4:37:58 PM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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To: P-Marlowe
(We've been over your Edwards quote)
16 posted on 01/23/2004 4:39:00 PM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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(We've been over your Edwards quote)
17 posted on 01/23/2004 4:39:00 PM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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To: jude24
FYI: This is not a GRPL sign up thread. Requests to join should be FReep mailed to me.

Post a favorite quote. Maybe one from Darby?
18 posted on 01/23/2004 4:45:24 PM PST by drstevej
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John Nelson Darby on Article XVII of the Thirty Nine Articles...

"For my own part, I soberly think Article XVII to be as wise, perhaps I might say the wisest and best condensed human statement of the view it contains that I am acquainted with. I am fully content to take it in its literal and grammatical sense. I believe that predestination to life is the eternal purpose of God, by which, before the foundations of the world were laid, He firmly decreed, by His counsel secret to us, to deliver from curse and destruction those whom He had chosen in Christ out of the human race, and to bring them, through Christ, as vessels made to honour, to eternal salvation.

J. N. Darby, "The Doctrine of the Church of England at the Time of the Reformation," in The Collected Writings of J. N. Darby (Winschoten, Netherlands: H. L. Heijkoop, 1971), 3:3.
19 posted on 01/23/2004 4:50:45 PM PST by drstevej
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To: jude24
Would you like me to post it again?

Would you like me to post it again?

Would you like me to post it again?

20 posted on 01/23/2004 6:20:07 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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