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To: Jimmy Simon
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

If any of those two ingredients is lacking, the soul ceases to exist. I will use a very basic example. If you make a cake, you need flour, milk, sugar,etc. If you were to someway extract the flour from the cake it would no longer be a cake. Nothing more nothing less.

Death doesn't mean non-existence,...in the Hebrew the translation is closer to a state of separation.

Consider what occurred when Adam and Eve partake the fruit. They remained physically alive. They hid themselves, indicating by their conscientiousness that they remained alive in the soul, but they departed from righteousness in spirit, hence their spirit had separated from God.

Prior to their sin, they were trichotomous in anthroplogy. After the sin in the Garden, man became dichotomous, body and soul.

Jesus Christ was created as the Second Adam, perfect in body, soul and spirit. His perfect sacrifice now has provided the life blood, the spirit, as redemption for what man had separated from God.

God is a god of the Living. Our faith in Him is counted for non-meritorious righteousness which by His grace is effected for salvation by Him. After Jesus Christ, man may confess his sins through Jesus Christ, for the regeneration of that spirit and be reborn in Him.

Accordingly, The soul of the unbeliever continues to exist in the Torments. The soul of the believer upon separation from the body is face to face with the Lord.

The belief that the soul ceases to exist is really the substance of existentialism, hardly the product of Scripture.

5 posted on 10/26/2003 1:59:19 AM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: Cvengr
About: The Institutes Book 1 chap 15 (The Nature of Man)

Referring to verse 17 of Genesis if you read very carefully, "...thou shalt surely die." "Shalt" referrs to the future. It doesn't say exactly when Adam would die. It's true that there was certainly a different relationship between God and Adam after their fall because their sin had caused a separation between Man and God. They no longer were immortal beings. You're right, there was a spiritual separation there. We read later (many places in Scripture) that the separation of the "dust of the earth" from the "spirit" (the breath of life) is death. The ingredients still exist but not in one entity. The 2 ingredients are separate from on another and the once living soul becomes a dead soul. Nowhere does it say that a soul goes to heaven or hell when a person dies. To the contrary, one enters a sleep until the second coming of Christ . Otherwise, what would be the point in having a resurrection of the just if all the just dead are already in heaven. It 's all very logical if you just think about it and forget all the confusing lies we've all been taught at sometime or other in our lives. If you read the study again, you will see that a soul dies. In Joshua it says "destroying [them]".
Ezekiel 18
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Note in Joshua that "souls..destroying[them]... not any left to breath...". When the breath of life leaves the body, the soul dies or ceases to exist. This is what the Bible teaches.
Joshua 11:11 And they smote all the souls that [were] therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying [them]: there was not any left to breathe : and he burnt Hazor with fire.
No where does the Bible say at death you will meet face to face with the Lord. Please refer me to a specific verse that says exactly that. Neither does the Bible use the word "existentialism". That is fabricated, man-made word. It doesn't matter what "label" is given to anything in Scripture, as long as we do what it says and follow its teachings. If you will read the Bible and just accept it and what it says, then it becomes very clear and easy to understand. The problem begins when we try to mix false doctrines that we've been taught to believe all our lives with what the Bible says. Then, to put it crudely, oil and the water don't mix. Thank you for your patience, and if you don't mind, please use the Scriptures to verify your statements. If the Bible doesn't say it, I can't accept it. God Bless You.
8 posted on 10/27/2003 8:53:19 PM PST by Jimmy Simon
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