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Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art
The Mercury News ^ | Oct 6, 2003 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 10/06/2003 5:46:03 AM PDT by runningbear

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

Posted on Mon, Oct. 06, 2003

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

HEARING OCT. 20 IN CASE OF MODESTO HOMEMAKER

By Julia Prodis Sulek
Mercury News

MODESTO - Nazi Low Riders named Dirty and Skeeter, an old Satanic cult called the Order of Lion, and bizarre paintings of decapitated women and floating fetuses. These are the latest surreal elements in the Laci Peterson murder case.

Who could have guessed that the death of this pregnant homemaker who watched ``Martha Stewart Living'' each morning and had a wine-of-the-month club membership would be intertwined with such seamy images?

But no theory, it seems, is too far-fetched for a case that feeds tabloid headlines and talk show debates. Two especially macabre scenarios have arisen as the Oct. 20 preliminary hearing approaches.

One centers on a jailhouse informant who passed a lie-detector test after claiming two gang thugs were hired to kill Peterson's wife. The other resurrects a decade-old quadruple homicide outside Modesto by devil worshipers who believed the purest sacrifice is the killing of a newborn baby.

One scenario could send Peterson to the death chamber. The other could set him free. Could either be true? Or has a thirst for the sensational spawned titillating tales when the reality may be something far simpler: a cheating husband killing his wife to be with his mistress?

The prosecution is expected to push that more simple theory when it lays out its case for the first time at Peterson's preliminary hearing in Modesto. But until then the focus has shifted to bald, tattooed gangsters and robe-clad Satanists.

The Nazi Low Riders

It was only two weeks ago that Cory Carroll, a Fresno jail inmate, issued a startling statement: Scott Peterson used him to set up a murder-for-hire.

According to Carroll's lawyer, Frank Muna, it started in early November last year at a Fresno strip club called City Lights. After seeing Carroll's prison identification card when he paid for a drink, Peterson struck up a conversation. They spent the next several hours together watching the dancers, shooting pool and bar hopping.

``Scott mentioned he would like to buy his wife a new car for Christmas,'' but if he sold the old one he didn't think he would get much money for it, said Muna, who grew up in East San Jose. ``He asked my client if he knew anyone willing to steal the car so he could claim it on his insurance.''

Peterson offered him $300 to make an introduction, Muna said. A couple of weeks later, on Nov. 29, Carroll brought Peterson together with Dirty and Skeeter, members of the Nazi Low Riders, a notorious prison gang known for murder, extortion and drug running.

The foursome gathered at Best Budget motel, where Carroll lived and worked as a maintenance man, Muna said. There, Peterson made a far more sinister proposal.

``He solicited the two guys, Dirty and Skeeter, to get rid of his wife -- first to kidnap his wife, then to get rid of her,'' Muna said. ``My client didn't want any part of that so he left. He ran into Dirty and Skeeter a half-hour later, and they told my client they were going to take care of what Scott wanted.''

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Frequent phone companions

Frequent phone companions

By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ

BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: October 4, 2003, 07:27:19 AM PDT

Scott Peterson and his lover exchanged at least 37 telephone calls in the four weeks after she revealed their relationship at a Jan. 24 televised news conference, according to partial phone records. Authorities secretly taped their conversations for 3 1/2 weeks. Amber Frey's calls to the married man would continue for 15 days after the wiretaps stopped on Feb. 4, according to the records.

Whether Frey knew about the wiretaps -- or knew when they ended -- is not clear.

But the records suggest that Frey, who first contacted Modesto police on Dec. 30, cooperated with authorities. She appears to have regularly called Modesto police Detective Jon Buehler upon hanging up with Peterson, even after authorities stopped bugging his phones.

Peterson, 30, is charged with killing his wife, Laci, and their unborn son. Prosecutors believe Peterson pretended to know nothing about their deaths as thousands searched for the pregnant woman after she was reported missing Dec. 24. The bodies of mother and son were found in mid-April.

Though he had steadfastly denied Bee reports of the affair, Peterson reversed course in a half-dozen media interviews starting four days after Frey's Jan. 24 news conference. He admitted lying about his relationship with the 28-year-old massage therapist from Fresno, and said he had discussed it with his wife in early December. Frey has said she didn't know Peterson was married when they met Nov. 20.

The phone records show Peterson and Frey exchanged at least 76 calls over nine turbulent weeks that started nine days before Laci Peterson's disappearance. The calls stretched through the holidays, emotional news conferences, her birthday and the due date for Peterson's son before apparently ending Feb. 19.

On Feb. 10, Frey dialed Peterson's numbers four times -- and didn't call Buehler at all. The night before, the former lovers spoke for 34 minutes. Feb. 10 held significant events for both:

It was Frey's 28th birthday.

It marked Laci Peterson's due date.

Friends and family of Laci Peterson prayed in East La Loma Park, which volunteers had searched many times. Peterson was at home that evening, a short walk from the park.

Nude photos of Frey taken four years earlier first hit some National Enquirer newsstands.

Frey has spoken privately about receiving seven calls from Peterson on Valentine's Day. Phone records show she called Peterson once that day as well, and again at 2:42 a.m. the following day. Frey didn't immediately report either call to Buehler.

The phone records show:

Frey called Buehler's office phone, cell phone and home phone 191 times in a three-month stretch ending March 14, totaling more than 19 hours of conversation. Many of the calls came immediately after Frey's conversations with Peterson.

Frey and Buehler averaged nearly 16 calls and 1 1/2 hours of phone time per week.

Frey didn't call Peterson on Jan. 24. That evening, she stunned observers by going public with their relationship. The next day, they exchanged at least three calls.

The two spoke at least once on Jan. 27, the day Peterson taped his mea culpa for ABC's "Good Morning America." After the show aired the first segment of a two-part interview with Diane Sawyer the next day, Frey called Peterson's cell phone for a call that lasted 23 minutes.

That night, she phoned him again -- and the call lasted 52 minutes.

Frey also phoned Sawyer's office on Feb. 22. An assistant to Sawyer said the show has been trying for months to book an interview with Frey, without success.

Though police reported no new developments Feb. 1, records show a flurry of calls that day between Frey and Peterson, and Frey and Buehler.

Frey called Peterson's number nine times on two of his cell phones and spoke for almost 90 minutes. She called Buehler 19 times the same day, with the calls lasting a total of 61 minutes.

She also placed two calls that morning to Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King refused Friday to say why Frey called.

King popped onto the Peterson media scene two weeks ago in connection with another aspect of the case. At a lawyer's request, he gave a lie-detector test earlier in the month to a jail inmate who claims that before his arrest he heard Scott Peterson discussing a plot to kidnap Laci Peterson with two members of a vicious neo-Nazi gang.

King has said that Cory Lee Carroll passed the polygraph.

In the nine weeks reflected in the partial phone records, Frey and Peterson totaled more than 8 1/2 hours in phone conversations -- an average of nearly one hour per week of phone time.

Frey's fingers busy dialing

Frey, who has shunned interviews, had at least some contact with several media companies from mid-January through mid-March.

Records show that in addition to phoning ABC's Sawyer, she called CNN's Connie Chung, a Fox News affiliate in Santa Monica and Fortune magazine. She also placed five calls to People magazine.

Frey last called Peterson on Feb. 19 at 7:36 a.m., the second day of a two-day search by police of Peterson's home. Investigators carried out dozens of bags of items.

The day before, police drove Peterson's white Dodge pickup away and returned it several hours later. State Attorney General Bill Lockyer would later say that police used global positioning satellite devices in the case and were tracking Peterson's truck.

Prosecutors might have put out information in an attempt to induce Peterson into making damaging statements that the wiretaps would pick up, Assistant San Francisco District Attorney James Hammer has said.

A week after a judge approved wiretaps on two of Peterson's cell phones, The Bee reported Peterson was having an affair with an unknown woman. That day, Frey dialed Peterson's phones twice -- and called Bueh- ler seven times.

At some point in January, prosecutors also confronted Peterson with a rare pre-arrest plea offer: They would take a possible death penalty off the table if Peterson would lead investigators to the body.

"It's called tickling," Hammer said. "They are going to dangle the death penalty and see if he gets scared enough to say stupid things."

DA nipped wiretap

But information from the wiretaps appears to have been of limited value to prosecutors.

According to court documents, the district attorney's office had asked a judge to cut off the first wiretap early, saying "further progress in the investigation would not be gained through additional interception."

State law allows a wiretap to run for up to 30 days, but a judge can grant an extension.

Court documents show the first wiretap was approved on Jan. 10 and ran to Feb. 4, the day a car dealer gave Laci Peterson's Land Rover to her family. Scott Peterson had traded the vehicle in toward the purchase of the Dodge truck.

Also Feb. 4, Frey phoned Peterson at 9:20 p.m. and again at 10:02 p.m.; the second call lasted 15 minutes. She then phoned Bueh- ler and spoke for 23 minutes -- the last of four calls to the detective that day. At 11:19 p.m., she called Peterson back and spoke for two minutes........

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Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

His client in county jail alleges a conspiracy to kidnap, kill Laci Peterson.

By John Coté and Garth Stapley
The Modesto Bee
(Published Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:29 AM)

A Fresno attorney has been making the interview rounds with a story that his client has crucial information linking Scott Peterson to the murder of his wife and unborn son.

During the last two weeks Frank Muna has appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" and Fox News' "On the Record" with Greta Van Susteren and been interviewed by the press about his version of the Laci and Conner Peterson deaths -- that they were victims of one of several contract kidnap and killing scenarios.

Little information has surfaced to corroborate his accounts, and questions about his motivation have been raised.

Muna repeatedly has said his client, Fresno jail inmate Cory Lee Carroll, is not asking for anything in return for the information.

But Muna was in contact with tabloid news outlets to sell Carroll's story, two sources said. Muna called that untrue.

According to the sources, Muna sought more than $75,000 for the story from The National Enquirer.

Enquirer Senior Editor Charlie Montgomery confirmed his publication pays for stories, but he would not comment on whether Muna had contacted them or sought payment.

Muna said Wednesday he had not shopped the story. He said tabloids contacted him after The Bee reported the story Sept. 20.

"The National Enquirer made the offer, and we turned it down," Muna said. "This sounds more like there is some law enforcement -- some third party -- trying to influence credibility. We don't have anything to sell. All the information we have has been released."

Muna's information has come in distinct batches. He first said his client arranged a meeting between Peterson and two neo-Nazi gang members to discuss stealing Laci Peterson's vehicle for insurance money, but the talk soon turned to kidnapping.

The next week, Muna added to that account, saying Carroll heard Scott Peterson arranging to pay the gang members, identified as "Dirty" and "Skeeter," $22,000 to abduct and murder his pregnant wife. To this date, "Dirty" and "Skeeter" have not been publicly identified.

Muna suggested Scott Peterson failed to pay the money after he came under intense police scrutiny, and Laci Peterson died while being held. The disgruntled kidnappers could have dumped the bodies where Peterson said he went fishing to implicate him, Muna said.

Credibility was lent to the original car theft story because Carroll passed a lie-detector test administered by a veteran Fresno investigator.

But polygraph tests are not admissible in court because they are unreliable, and other parts of the story remain uncorroborated.

The identities and whereabouts of people named as key players in the scenarios remain elusive.

Authorities are refusing to comment on Muna's information, citing a sweeping gag order imposed in the case...........

(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


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To: Sandylapper
Oh, I dunno... with Scott's IQ, I think he might've paid them with a check. ("Okay, here ya go guys, hey, don't cash my check till Friday, 'kay?")

I don't think there is such a thing as a hit man who ISN'T a slimebag. And think of all the hired-killing cases that have been won--and each of those must have contained testimony from a slimebag. And other, non-murder cases, too, in which the only witnesses were slimebags, perhaps b/c the crime took place in a druggie neighborhood, or whatever.
341 posted on 10/12/2003 8:54:06 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
I'd be willing to bet that he begged them to shut up as much as a month b/f they actually seem to have shut up.
342 posted on 10/12/2003 8:55:47 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I wasn't that sure about the Carroll story as presented by Muna, but when I saw King interviewed, I believed him. Muna keeps adding stuff, but the stuff he adds, helps prosecution. Now, that, of course, is not bad, but frankly, everyone acts a little scared that they're going to offend Dirty and Skeeter.
343 posted on 10/12/2003 8:57:08 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper; Canadian Outrage
And we haven't heard the end of the story on the fingerprint that was supposedly lifted from tape found on a tarp which washed up right by Laci's body. If it's Scott's fingerprint... look out!
344 posted on 10/12/2003 8:57:15 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: melodie
No Saki was the "friend" of Amber's that sold her story to the tabloids I think and she was the one that was apparently going to sue because her reflection was in one of the pictures of Snott and Amber. She sounds like a "winner" huh?
345 posted on 10/12/2003 8:58:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Well, maybe they'll let the strand of hair come into evidence. Defense will have a time trying to explain how that hair got there, won't they? Maybe they've found the chicken wire in the bay which would be helpful to the prosecution to make the tie-in.
346 posted on 10/12/2003 9:06:50 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Look out is right - can you spell "screwed"?? I'm praying that one of the 31 items from the Bay are ankle weights!! Remember he had the receipt for purchasing them but had no explanation as to where they were.
347 posted on 10/12/2003 9:06:51 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Devil_Anse
I'd bet he begged them to shut up, too, and they wouldn't. Maybe Matt was telling the Petersons not to shut up, and MG was telling them the opposite. Another reason for the split.
348 posted on 10/12/2003 9:10:01 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Uh oh, Devil, I read the title of this thread and thought I'd see what you were up to now.

Heh heh. CC :)
349 posted on 10/12/2003 9:10:56 PM PDT by CheneyChick (Let the Hauskleaning Begin)
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To: Devil_Anse
Awww, c'mon Anse. Scottie didn't pay them with a check. And he can admit to putting $300 in the box to pay them for the car theft, but for some unearthly reason, they came into his home, overpowered him, tied him to the kitchen chair, kidnapped Laci, demanded ransom, gave him 2 weeks to raise the money, threatened to kill Laci if he talked to the police, etc. etc.
350 posted on 10/12/2003 9:17:04 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
That would be the crowning blow--the fingerprint is Scott's!!!!
351 posted on 10/12/2003 9:18:53 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Lord, let it be!! THAT fingerprint would be an answer from Heaven. With that, I'm off for the night. Sweet dreams, Freepers and Freeperettes!! Sweet dreams! Lynn
352 posted on 10/12/2003 9:29:10 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Night, CO! If that fingerprint is Scott's, time for prosecution to say to judge--NO MORE DELAYS!
353 posted on 10/12/2003 9:35:49 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
You're right, Sandy, there are people out there who would believe that. There were some who thought "drug dealers" or some type of similar scumbags had kidnapped Elizabeth Smart to "get back at her father b/c he owed money and didn't pay". I was wrong on who I thought did that one, but I never thought it was drug dealers or any other nameless scumbag who was mad at Ed, b/c from everything I've ever known of such things, when scumbags like that are mad at a man, it is the man himself, the one who owes the money, or double-crossed them, whom they go after--not "his family". Or if they do go after his family, it's b/c the family is in the way, and they take him out along with the family.
354 posted on 10/13/2003 4:26:53 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: CheneyChick
LOL! Good to see you again, CC! Yes, unfortunately, I can't always succeed in keeping my name out of these things...
355 posted on 10/13/2003 4:28:23 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Maybe. If Matt was telling those idiots to violate the court's order, I hope the judge makes a complaint about him to the bar association.
356 posted on 10/13/2003 4:29:38 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Why wouldn't they let the hair come in? It was in the pliers which were in the boat!
357 posted on 10/13/2003 4:31:01 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
That story is so full of holes, though! First, we find out that what Carroll claimed about "lockdown" couldn't have been true. Then we hear about some stripper named "Tammy" at City Lights, but no one at all remembers any stripper who ever went by that name. Then we hear that she took a photo, but then we hear that the place doesn't allow photos unless the stripper is some big-name "celebrity" stripper, and yet... there was no big-name "celebrity" stripper there who had the name Tammy. Then he can't explain why this woman would take a photo, but not sell it to the guys, but just... keep it. Why?? The stripper thought Skeeter and/or Dirty and/or Scott and/or Carroll were THAT photogenic?

Then we hear that Scott supposedly met with Carroll and/or the others at a Chili's restaurant in the early afternoon of Nov. 29, the day after Thanksgiving. But everyone in San Diego says Scott was driving from SD to Modesto that day. I know the Petersons would lie, but I don't hear anyone from either side of the family saying Scott and Laci DIDN'T drive back that day. And if they did, it has to have taken quite a few hours! How could they have been back, and Laci dropped at home, and luggage taken inside, etc., etc., in time for Scott to bop over to some Chili's restaurant by "early afternoon"?

Then we hear that employees at the hotel--where Scott allegedly had this meeting with Skeeter and Dirty--some hotel called the Budget Inn or something, the police showed the employees a picture of Cory Carroll and they recognized him as a guy who did live there sometimes. But the same employees were shown a picture of Scott, and they said they'd never seen him at the hotel b/f.

And we hear that Skeeter's and Dirty's real names are Tony and Anthony (which Caroll apparently doesn't know are the same name), but then we hear that no, Dirty's actual name is Doug Maderas. Doug or Anthony/Tony--which is it?

I'm having trouble believing that this Caroll thing is anything more than a jail inmate's cashing in on a few bucks for selling stories.

358 posted on 10/13/2003 4:47:55 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Apparently, Muna did some talking while I was away last week, and if prosecution has declared Carroll's story untrue, and there's no need to explore this "wild card" further, then so be it. I do believe that the ball is in prosecution's court to explain to us exactly why the story is untrue, and why it won't be pursued further.

I hadn't heard that "Tammy" was the name of the stripper, but obviously strippers and artists often use a stage name, if you will. I also had not heard that everyone at the club was denying her existence. I did hear that the stripper sat on someone's lap while the picture was being made, so it's obvious to me that the last of the big-time spenders would indeed buy the picture, and refuse to take that kind of evidence, if he were married. Just tell her to keep it.

No, we haven't heard a word from either side, but if it's not true, get it off TV and the news now. I can't see how that would jeopardize the case for either side.

359 posted on 10/13/2003 11:32:00 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: melodie
I thought Saki was a dog.

She may be! But, she's a friend of Amber's. Heh heh.

360 posted on 10/13/2003 1:09:37 PM PDT by Velveeta
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