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Libertarians endorse GOP's McClintock!
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 4, 2003 | Steve Kubby

Posted on 10/04/2003 9:12:29 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR

A strange thing is happening in California politics: The GOP is turning its back on a popular, conservative Republican to support a Hollywood actor who opposes nearly every social issue the Republicans claim to stand for.

Meanwhile, Libertarians across the state of California are making an unprecedented exodus from the Libertarian party's candidate and instead supporting California state Sen. Tom McClintock, a conservative Republican. Nothing like this has happened before in the Libertarian Party and it speaks volumes about the character and integrity of Tom McClintock.

Why is McClintock attracting so much attention from the "Party of Principle"? It's because McClintock is the only candidate who is prepared to veto the reckless spending spree that has overtaken Sacramento.

In a recent cover story that appeared in the Orange County Weekly, R. Scott Moxley explains why McClintock is admired and feared for his willingness to veto spending bills. "Ask Sacramento Democrats what they think of McClintock. They'll likely tell you the last man they want holding the veto pen to their spending habits is the relentlessly frugal 47-year-old conservative from Thousand Oaks."

I should tell you that the Orange County Weekly is anti-Bush, and anti-conservative. So a cover story endorsing McClintock is already generating "horror on the left and suspicion in establishment GOP circles," according to Moxley. But the message is too powerful to ignore: The spending spree has to stop and nobody has the guts to stop it, except McClintock.

When Gray Davis first ran for governor in 1998, California's economy was the envy of the world. As Libertarian nominee for governor, I campaigned against Gray Davis and the spending habits of the Democrats. I predicted back then that the California economy was going to collapse because of the rapidly expanding role of government in our lives and in our pocketbooks. (In fact, one popular radio host denounced me for my alarmist economic views.) Back then, nobody wanted to hear that, but now – five years later – California's fiscal problems are painfully apparent to everyone.

Here's how the Orange County Weekly sizes up the problem: "While California's population rose 21 percent during the Davis era, the Democrats raised state spending by a whopping 40 percent. They've added 44,000 new public employees to the state payroll and, in the midst of the current fiscal crisis, strapped taxpayers with an additional $700 million per year in ridiculously generous public-employee pension perks."

A group calling itself, Libertarians for McClintock, has posted a website which has an impressive list of California Libertarians who are endorsing Sen. McClintock. The site lists a number of issues with which the state's leading Libertarians are in strong agreement with McClintock.

Tom on the issues

Medical Marijuana: "The people of California spoke clearly on that subject. The federal government has no right to intervene." Tom says he voted for Proposition 215 in 1996, which legalized medical marijuana in California.

Cut Taxes And Spending: He was the first to call for repealing the car tax, beginning a petition drive to force a vote on the issue. Since then, all the other major candidates for governor have jumped on Tom's bandwagon, echoing his call to repeal the car tax.

Restore Choice In Education: "Two simple but far-reaching changes are needed to turn the system right-side up: first, restore to parents the ultimate choice over their child's teacher, subject only to academic qualifications and space limitations set by the teacher; and second, pay teachers according to the number of students they attract."

Limited Government Liberates People: "Jefferson observed that a government which attempts to do more than it ought will accomplish less. His America today is not experiencing a crisis of confidence in government; but rather a rediscovery of the limitations of government. To the existing establishment, that may be a crisis. But to the people, it is a liberation."

Right To Keep And Bear Arms: "The right is absolute. In a free nation, government has no authority to forbid me from speaking because I might shout "fire" in a crowded theater. Government has no authority to forbid me from using my fist to defend myself because I might also use it to strike your nose. And government has no authority to forbid me from owning a firearm because I might shoot an innocent victim."

Draft Registration: As co-chair of the Senate Transportation Committee, Tom led the fight to kill the bill requiring young people to register for the draft before they could get a driver's license. The bill was defeated in committee.

Free Trade: "Respecting the right of consumers to make their own decisions in the marketplace without having government interpose its judgment for theirs."

Slash Regulation And Bureaucracy: "This is the opportunity of our generation, this historic turning point, to roll back the taxes, the regulations destroying our economy, and to rein in our out-of-control bureaucracies.

Superiority Of Individual Over Collective Decision-Making: "In any human enterprise, individuals making their own decisions according to their own lights produce a far higher level of prosperity and a far wiser and more just allocation of resources than decisions made collectively and administered centrally."

There is an old saying that character is destiny. Certainly the past decisions of the other top contenders in the recall election are still shaping their destiny. Quite frankly, we are being asked to place our trust in those who have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be unworthy of our trust. Or, we can stop fooling around and vote for a man who has a long track record of walking his talk and standing up for the rights of the individual against the tyranny of "collective decision making."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; endorsement; governor; mcclintock; recall
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To: TERMINATTOR
Good.

Now that McClintock's career is over as a Republican, by his own undoing, he can join the Libertarian party and continue his descent into irrelevance.
61 posted on 10/04/2003 10:48:37 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: duckln
The Austian Socialist by jove!
62 posted on 10/04/2003 10:50:45 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: marajade
Next we will see a proud post saying that the Democrats endorsed McClintock.

The liberals have been singing McClintock's praises, while bashing Arnold at every turn.

They know that their only chance IS for McClintock to take enough votes away from Arnold to get Bustamante in.
63 posted on 10/04/2003 10:50:57 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Wait4Truth
Why are you so worried about Schwartzenegger losing? I thought his poll numbers were unchanged by the scandals and all that. Are you going to be complaining about those evil Libertarians when Arnold gets into office and goes back to being a RINO? I consider this move on their part to be more of a sign that they trust McClintock more than they do Schwartzenegger, and they see a better chance of getting their agenda enacted with McClintock than with either Arnold or the no-name candidates who are registered Libertarians. Why? Because they're not loony, they're not stupid, they think the Republican establishment is part of the problem, not part of the solution, and last of all, they still believe in democracy with a small "d" unlike some "loyal" Republicans out there.
64 posted on 10/04/2003 10:51:20 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: zanarchist
Some Libertarians are endorsing Tom McClintock, not the other way around. Get a grip!
65 posted on 10/04/2003 10:52:13 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR ((R)nold's like a chrome plated Yugo - all show and no go! McClintock for Governor of California!)
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To: dighton; JohnGalt
Idiots assemble here.
66 posted on 10/04/2003 11:06:03 AM PDT by aculeus (You know I don't mean you.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Just WIN, Baby!!!! "

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You bet! We have a choice: do we want to STOP the Dem Machinery in California, which will also hurt the Dems nationwide, there goes Hillary's 2004 candidacy OR do we want to STRENGHTEN the Dems in CA AND nationwide and have Hillary run and God forbid win in 2004.

It's time for people to look behind their noses and take a clue from other TRUE conservative Republicans, like Ray Haynes, David Dreyer, Bill Simon and countless others, who are supporting Arnold for a Republican win.

It's time to wake up and STOP being pawns of the Democrats. Ask yourselves: Who benefits from your votes? It's Bustamante and the Dem machinery.
67 posted on 10/04/2003 11:12:33 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: marajade
Do you know what the Libertarian Party stands for?

Yes.

Legalization of drugs. Is that principled?

If you believe that the feds have no business telling individuals how they may medicate themselves it is. In the land of the free and home of the brave, our benevolent government prevents us from buying, possessing, or using drugs and are successfully used in other countries. Is there and will there be abuse? Yes. Should people abuse drugs (food, tobacco, alcohol, firearms, etc, etc.)? No. Should they have the freedom to do so? Yes. Is that principled? Yes.

Legalization of prostitution. Is that principled?

Why do YOU care what to other willing adults do? Should prostitution be honorable? No. Should it happen? Probably not. Who is the victim? The willing woman or the willing man? (Adultry is a separate issue.)

Legalization of sex with minors. Is that principled?

You'll have to show me that one. I didn't see it on a search and that doesn't sound correct to me. The way you've put it, it looks more like one of the wacky allegations than a sound criticism. The last I saw, the LP supported the rights of ADULTS to have sex without government restricitions.

You seem to be in favor of MORE government in our lives than less. That isn't a Conservative principle, now is it?

68 posted on 10/04/2003 11:14:07 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Wait4Truth
For the most part, Libertarians hate the Republican Party and President Bush

This is pure crap and you know this.

69 posted on 10/04/2003 11:21:34 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: TERMINATTOR
I have a grip. I have heard so much about Arnold being pro-choice and how bad that is that I thought McClintock would reject support from a group that is just on "Principle".
70 posted on 10/04/2003 11:23:00 AM PDT by zanarchist
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To: FairOpinion; My2Cents; Tamsey; onyx
I think maybe Tom should check this out.

Because I think he's done in the GOP.

Dan
71 posted on 10/04/2003 11:24:12 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Wait4Truth
Actually, I would be outraged if the Republican Party acted like the Libertarian Party

I don't really care for either. The LP tends to rely on shock value statements that marginalize the good, solid positions that they take on relevant issues such as government reduction, limited government and supporting 2A rights.

Second, I have great admiration and respect for President Bush - a true leader.

I agree with you regarging the WoT. But not on many of his other policies that have been shown to be Moderate to Leftist in many cases.

Libertarians do all they can to undermine him as he leads the war against terror. Libertarians work more closely with the RATS than they do with the Republicans.

The LP (to the best of my knowledge) does not activley coordinate with the Democrats. Many times the LP disagrees with the President and has every right to voice that opinion. Do you have a problem with that? Are there some that get into personal attacks? Yep. Are there Republicans that do that? Big time.

I have no respect for them whatsoever. Let's just let it go at that.

Maybe you need to change your focus. If all I did was look at McCaine, Jeffords and the Log Cabins as representative of the entire RP then I'd have little to no respect for it either.

Do yourself a favor, learn to differential between Libertarians and libertarians. There are plenty of libertarians on FR with whom you probably mostly agree.

72 posted on 10/04/2003 11:24:17 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: jmaroneps37
LIBERAL-tarians

The Libertarian platform is solidly anti-liberal. Do you and others who incessantly despise the LP always resort to lies and propaganda?

73 posted on 10/04/2003 11:25:16 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight
Any conservative with an open mind can readily see that his or her core values are advanced by neither Bush nor the Republicans. If anything the RP has become in the past 10 years a means for the socialists to say "see, see there is a 'right wing' party! It's not all a one ideology system!" The only way that conservatives can remain a viable group is to move away from the RP and form a new party.
74 posted on 10/04/2003 11:33:58 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: CodeMonkey
There already is a new party for conservatives: The Constitution Party.
75 posted on 10/04/2003 11:47:46 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight
"The Libertarian platform is solidly anti-liberal."

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In SOME things, in other things they outliberal the liberal.

They are associate with antiwar.com. The Liberatarian candidate, Browne wrote several articles posted on Anti-war.com and at some point Antiwar.com had links to the Libertarian party site.
76 posted on 10/04/2003 11:51:37 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
And some Republicans are pro-choice, anti-gun, for higher taxes and world government.
77 posted on 10/04/2003 11:53:27 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight
Here is more -- note the Libertarian Anti-War position written by their pres. candidate, Harry Browne, published at antiwar.com. Did you say the Libertarian Party is not liberal?

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/browne28.html

Libertarians and War
by Harry Browne
May 6, 2003

And you can go to the LP's website:

http://www.lp.org

They are committed to "a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade."


78 posted on 10/04/2003 11:56:20 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: ServesURight
The point is that McClintock is proud to be endorsed by a party who is pro-abortion, anti-war (no matter what, we are all anti-war in general, but more sensible people recognize that there are situations, where war IS the only answer.

Will a Democrat endorsement be next?

McClintock supporters still don't get the message, apparently.
79 posted on 10/04/2003 11:58:47 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: duckln
Who would make the better governor?


Of the two....... Schwarzenegger because there will only be one of them elected and it will be Schwarzenegger. So by default he'll be better as 'tock won't have the opportunity at this time.
80 posted on 10/04/2003 12:02:27 PM PDT by deport (Why does McClintock think he's entitled to the Governor's Office?)
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