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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD PREGAME SHOW

Posted on 10/03/2003 6:27:10 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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To: Monty22
The problems always start when someone goes from just stopping pain to achieving pleasure.

Yup, can't disagree with that. Unfortunately that can be a very fuzzy line, complicated by both the physical and mental aspects of it. It takes being highly in-tune with one body and mind to recognize it. It can be very similar to food, some get cravings because of a lack somewhere in their diet. Many can't recognize them for what they are, others can.

801 posted on 10/03/2003 10:38:35 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The socialist revolution is almost complete.)
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To: muskogee
Maybe Rush really does need codeine for chronic pain.

Then he should have gotten a prescription.

802 posted on 10/03/2003 10:38:52 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: mikegi
Perhaps you have poor comprehension. The operative point here is that there IS a police investigation going on now...AS WE POST. He would be stupid, and his lawyer would be advising him poorly, if he began responding to media charges at this point. Are you so poorly versed on the law that you can not see that?
803 posted on 10/03/2003 10:38:58 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: muskogee
I am a ditto head and continue to support Rush.

If it has any truth to it. Then I still stand behind Rush. My love is unconditional. Unless he were to hurt someone or it was a crime. Then I still will love Rush but support him in his attempt to change what is harming him, if there is something.
804 posted on 10/03/2003 10:39:05 AM PDT by JFC
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To: kevao
He hasn't been charged with anything yet. And, based on what we know right now, the charge would not be "buying illegal drugs", but rather buying prescription drugs illegally.

We all know he has not been charged with anything. Sheesh.... And I have no idea what the charges would possibly be, if any charges are filed.....

805 posted on 10/03/2003 10:39:30 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: GodBlessUSA; BlueHorseShoe
Okay, so it's not just me... I haven't been registered here that long but there seems to be a lot of left of center types on FR. Now, I did lurk here several years ago and the spirit of the site was much different... maybe DUers set up a lot of sleeper accounts?
806 posted on 10/03/2003 10:39:43 AM PDT by DanTheAdmin
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Lessee; Limbaugh, Assistant Junior G-Man in the war against reefer, is accused of buying thousands of blackmarket pain killers.

In response, all he can muster is a weasely Clintonian "let's wait until we have all the facts."

In one word, pathetic.

He's entitled to a presumption of innocence in court. But let's be honest: the last time we saw a public figure issued such a transparent non-denial was, oh, August 1998.

807 posted on 10/03/2003 10:39:45 AM PDT by IowaHawk
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To: traditionalist
Why is it that libertarians call anyone who disagrees with them a socialist?

I was quoting a previous poster in that section, that why it says "by your definition". So, to be clear, I did not call Rush a Socialist, someone else did. The term I hear libertarians use most often is "statist". Rush could be called a "statist" fairly in regards to the WOD, as he has always advocated a large role for the state in deciding who can take what, when.

At any rate, in case you did not know, our drug laws are quite lenient towards drug addicts, and rightfully so. They receive minimal punishment if they agree to go into rehab and show progress. My guess is that Rush is probably already in rehab, or maybe has already completed it.

Our drug laws can be very harsh with people who have a large quantity of drugs, or have bought large quantity of drugs, or have brokered the sales of large quantity of drugs, or have been in proximity to people brokering large quantities of drugs. There are people doing hard time for all of the above, I assure you. The classic 'girlfriend bust' is too well known to need reiteration here. So yes, some courts some times are lenient with addicts, other times addicts and users get caught up in the draconian dealing laws and are severely punished.

The only people who get the book thrown at them, and rightfully so, are dealers.

It would be pretty typical for his maid, who was doing him a favor and probably makes $25,000 a year cleaning his house to get the book thrown at her while Rush gets treatment and a suspended sentence. Is that fair?

No one is accusing Rush of being a dealer. Again, under some drug laws mere possession of certain quantities is ipso facto proof of dealing intent. He may very well be charged with dealing or "intent to distribute" if he is treated like, say, a 22 year old ghetto dweller who was caught (or found out to have bought) 1000 or more pills.

If Rush gets away with rehab and a slap on the wrist, which seems to be the most likely outcome, he'll have been treated like everyone else.

He'll be treated like others with his background, I'll agreee with that.

Furthermore, if he accepts the consequences like a man, you can't possibly accuse hims of hypocrisy. Oh yes I can. He's sat on the air telling everyone how bad drugs are. I don't claim you must be a saint to avoid hypocracy, but you should not take up as preacher if you don't believe in God. You should not be simultaneously urging on the WOD and breaking the laws you are telling everyone else they must support. If that is not hypocrasy, what is?

Where do you get this idiotic notion that you have to be sinless in order to not be a hypocrite?

I didn't say that, you did. I think there is a threashold of reasonableness for a hypocrasy charge to have weight. I think, if the accusations are true, that Rush is way over the line. Remember, Rush could have behaved the same way (ie: taking pain pills illegaly) and taken the position that government has no legitimate business telling grown ups what things they can put in their own bodies. But he didn't, he took the statist position that our bodies belong to the collective, and they may set rules for us. Fine, but then as a supporter of that position LIVE WITH IT. He did not. "Do as I say, not as I do". Maybe he should work that into his setup piece.

808 posted on 10/03/2003 10:39:48 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: BlueHorseShoe; dead; All
"You are gonna have egg all over your face along with many others on this site who are so quick to believe unfounded accusations against Rush. Your lack of fairness (along with others here) is stunning. Oh, but not surprising."

I'll second that.

809 posted on 10/03/2003 10:40:33 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: traditionalist
You are right about one thing our culture has changed. The Nanny state has undermined freedom and responsibility. My solution is to have more freedom and responsibility not continue and expand the nanny state.
810 posted on 10/03/2003 10:40:51 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: rockinonritalin
I have no idea the extent of his involvement, but he has, in his own words basically implicated himself by not stating "I am innocent of any allegations of illegal drug use". Simple as that.....

That's ridiculous.

It is?

LOL! This is getting very humorus.....

811 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:06 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Use your brain. Have you not heard of "not commenting" about ongoing investigations? How do you know Rush through his attorneys are not investigating this attempt to smear him. You just don't blurt out anything until you have all your ducks in line and can tell all the facts.

Rush is not stupid but you're acting as though you're not thinking clearly. If you get a thrill out of accusing him have at it. You seem to be in good comapny on this website doing so.

But this is a very complicated matter that has reached a fever pitch nationally and how in the world can you honestly understand how you would react if it were about you. Get a grip!!!
812 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:15 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: Terriergal
Wizzler feels your pain, dude


813 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:20 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Dont Panic!)
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To: sissyjane
Or do you automatically believe everything reported by the National Enquirer?

Not always, but more often than I believe the New York Times. For example, I believed the Enquirer when it reported about Monica's blue dress and Jesse's love child and guess what? The reports were right on.

814 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:21 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: wizzler
Hitlery, is that you? Taking a break from Smear-Week?
815 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:37 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: IowaHawk
That's right - HE'S GUILTY - String 'em up boys!
816 posted on 10/03/2003 10:41:40 AM PDT by DanTheAdmin
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To: Fawnn
Saying ANYTHING now gives them "quotes" to distort

Exactly .. IMO, I don't think he downed all those pills that is being claimed, but from what I could understand from Rush, IMO .. he's got people also investigation this story and how it came about. And until he get all the facts, he won't talk about it

817 posted on 10/03/2003 10:42:19 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
"Rush's comments about McNabb were just plain dumb"

The point of his comments wasn't McNabb- McNabb is as good as most quarterbacks- it was the media.

If the media treated McNabb as a typically able NFL quarterback, then Rush wouldn't have criticized them for overrating him.

818 posted on 10/03/2003 10:42:29 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Labyrinthos
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day...
819 posted on 10/03/2003 10:42:40 AM PDT by DanTheAdmin
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To: Monty22
People on drugs LOSE freedom! PERIOD!

Shouldn't individuals decide what freedom they are willing to sacrifice and to who or what as long as they don't infringe on others rights?

820 posted on 10/03/2003 10:42:57 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The socialist revolution is almost complete.)
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