[sandydipper]

Am I missing something?? 1492 preceeds 1565 - doesn't it?

[Roscoe]

Columbus.

[ericthecurdog]

Math genius!!

What's your point?

[cold_dead_fingers]

ROFLOL @ Columbus coming on the Mayflower.

[bobjam]

1492 cerainly preceeds 1565, but I was referring to the establishment of a permanent colony in the United States. I've always been a big fan of Columbus, and I highly recommend "Admiral of the Ocean Sea" by Samuel Elliot Morrison. Unfortunately, most US history books essentially begin with Plymouth. Virginia is treated as a fluke and the rest is really ignored. Most people don't know that the third oldest city in the USA is Santa Fe, New Mexico (1610). New England liberals think as though they started this country and therefore they know how to manage it.