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that Saddam used them at least 10 times in the 80's

Let me clearly state my point then. The administration of the 1980s didn't have a serious enough problem with Hussein's WMDs in the 1980s to declare war. Saddam Hussein presented no more of a threat than any other crazed dictator in the Middle East. That being said, there has been no evidence of 30,000 munitions or anything else Bush outlined in his speeches building up to the war. No ties to Al Qaeda and no ties to 9/11. In other words, no reason to invade and destroy Iraqi leadership other than human rights issues and to 'spread democracy', two reasons not even close to a point for declaration of war

they just weren't there

When confronted with your own ever-changing position and comments, you decide to clarify yet again.

Having a differing opinion regarding the threat Iraq posed to the region and the US is valid. Stating there are no ties to AQ shows a complete and utter lack of knowledge. The ties to AQ have been exquisitely detailed.

What are you using the same old tired arguements from the left that have already been debunked? I don't get it. Could you please explain this to me?

First off Saddam was used to keep the Iranians at bay in the 80's. It's simply a matter that we were trying to keep a snake as a pet and we all know snakes are notrious for having no loyalites.. they will bite their handlers at the first opportunity. To argue whether this was a sound policy would lead to another lengthy debate which I'm sure neither of us want to get into.

It is no lie to say Saddam is a madman. Being the fact that he's a loose cannon makes him dangerous to everyone in world for that fact alone.

It's well documented that Iraqi agents tried to kill the older Bush(I believe in 1994 if my memory serves correctly). Hense if we presenting this to a court of law you have now established motive as to why Saddam would love to see us go down(this one event is not the only one in which it's well documented Saddam put his hand in to bring harm to the US and her interests).

WMD without a doubt was in that country. The American media harps more on that fact that France, Germany, Russia, or China. You ever stop to think why? They know WMD was there.. they will not take the chance of getting a pie in the face by bolding lying and saying "There was no WMD in Iraq."(except for France.. they have no world face left to save.

Now that we have established motive and the means to carry out harm on the US let's move on to reasons for the war.

There is really only one important reason for the war. While we know that Saddam needed to go because of what a horrible dictator he was.. and that we were doing the world good by getting rid of him(another reason we must sacrifice our blood in Iraq so that the soliders that have already died do not die in vain). The big reason was the to increase overall security of the US and of the world as a whole. We are the only nation with the money and power to go into the Mideast and spend and do what it takes to ensure that radical Islam doesn't start putting nukes in the western capitals of the world. It's a shame that we must take this task(for the most part) on our own. The other major powers must think the are immune.. or simply in denial because Osama continues to name only the US and Britain in his threats(by name I'm saying.. not his threats against the "west"). The fact that Iran is still pursing nuclear weapons only futher justifies our cause. Syria is moving inline.. regardless of what we think they are still doing the progress can be seen in what they ARENT doing. Hezbollah has been for the most part silent for the last 2 years.. I don't know if that will continue but for their sake they better hope they do.

We thought there would of been more support from countries like India. Hense our timetable and our troop deployments have been extended farther than we would of liked. I would like to believe that we thought India and some other countries would of ponied up so we could bring a few more troops home for rotation so that when Korea and Iran come to a head will be fresh enough to take them on.

In order of importance.. Iran than North Korea.. there are alot more countries that want North Korea to remain in a box and nuke free than Iran.. Iran.. new missle.. range.. Israel.. nuff said.

All that being said God Bless our troops.. our cause.. and our nation... forget politics.. forget the blanket hate.. We need to focus people on this task that is ours to bear. If armagedon is to come during my children's lifetime I hope we don't let it happen by a few Islamic crazies.

Saddam Hussein presented no more of a threat than any other crazed dictator in the Middle East.

Precisely why we should push for regime change through the whole region.

Aye, but back in the day Iraq handn't signed a ceasefire that called for proof of disarmament within 30 days of the end of combat or else.

The whole 12 year rush to war was simply delay after delay of that original 30 day deadline.

Since they wouldn't let us look like they agreed, we were in the right regardless of whether they were actually there or not.

IIRC, o' course! :p