1 posted on
10/01/2003 1:09:09 PM PDT by
kattracks
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To: kattracks
This is really really disturbing. I haven't been so upset since I learned that pro-wresting was fake.
To: kattracks
Hey! If you want a black QB to really succeed, you put the him behind a really strong line, black or white. I really call it a failure of expectations of the linemen.
Look at the Bears. I rest my case.
3 posted on
10/01/2003 1:12:31 PM PDT by
Thebaddog
(Fetch this!)
To: kattracks
Wow...it's been months since I've seen AP run a "strictly the facts" story like this. Will wonders never cease....
To: kattracks
Why the Wes Clark quote?
7 posted on
10/01/2003 1:14:28 PM PDT by
TankerKC
(Wow! I guess I hit a nerve.)
To: kattracks
So, saying McNabb is overrated is now racist? Or is the press trying to deny that they have been on campaign in recent years to demand more black coaches and QBs - irrespective of talent?
Doesn't anyone remember what happened when Mariucci (sp?) got his job???
To: kattracks
On Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark said Limbaugh should be fired. The retired Army general called the remarks "hateful and ignorant speech." The General who earlier also stated that his idea of "faith based inititive" was Pure Science
and also sprang into his "Wizard of Oz" song that if he were kiiiiing of the foooorest" He would make it a priority to break the speed of light barrier so that he could go back in time.
Both Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson agreed that science needed also to do something about "gravity" jive... which had been holding his people down for a long time...
9 posted on
10/01/2003 1:17:06 PM PDT by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: kattracks
The look on Tom Jackson's face was priceless. You'd thought somebody had crapped in his lap.
10 posted on
10/01/2003 1:17:42 PM PDT by
wordsofearnest
(An armed society is a polite society.)
To: kattracks
What a broadcasting coup! Rush gets even non-sports fans talking about his new tv gig, which of course translates into even more Rush listeners.
Even better...he provokes Wesley Clark to make another stupid, stupid remark.
11 posted on
10/01/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by
YaYa123
(@ It's All Politics.com)
To: kattracks
Good grief. This wasn't a racist statement. Rush simply said out loud what everybody knows -- there's a racial double standard in the media. Maybe the people doing it are well-intentioned, maybe not. But all he said was that McNabb was overrated, and maybe the racial double standards was the reason.
Why is that any more offensive than saying that McNabb is overrated?
This is like the people who wanted that poor teacher fired because she used the word "niggardly."
To: kattracks
McNabb shouldn't expect an apology anyway. If you listen to any given sports talk radio, athletes are always being criticized. It comes with the territory.
To: kattracks
Rush Limbaugh did something he always (rightfully) accuses the libs of doing - injecting race into an argument.
I don't follow the NFL enough to know whether McNabb is any good or not, but that's beside the point, as is his race.
Rush committed a cardinal sin by injecting politics into sports. We didn't like it when Dennis Miller was injecting left-wing remarks when he was a football commentator (prior to Miller doing a 360 degree Arianna Huffington-like turn to the conservative side of the spectrum)...
Now, does that mean this story is worthy of headlines night and day? Hardly. But I guess it does tell you something about how many legs this "leak" story has, when something this trivial immediately pushes it off the front page.
15 posted on
10/01/2003 1:20:26 PM PDT by
ambrose
To: kattracks
Of course we just HAD to hear what Wesley Clark thought about all of this.
16 posted on
10/01/2003 1:20:35 PM PDT by
rintense
(Psycho like Rummy)
To: kattracks
If someone had said (and I'm sure they did at the time) "The media has every hope that Annika Sorenstam does well in a men's tournament. It's a social issue as much as anything else. They've lowered the bar so that she, essentially, cannot fail as long as she finishes 36 holes. But, rated purely as a golfer, she is overrated compared to the men".
That is an honest and true statement, and would not be cause for any outrage. But because McNabb is black....
20 posted on
10/01/2003 1:24:50 PM PDT by
Mr. Bird
To: kattracks
The ultra-left wing screams for affirmative action to provide opportunities for those who might not otherwise have been selected. We give blacks "extra credit" because they are black so that they will be included. But, when a white person mentions that a black's success is based in part, on his blackness, the lefties scream about that. This is the height of hypocracy by black racist thugs and their running dog liberals in the ultra-left wing media.
21 posted on
10/01/2003 1:25:29 PM PDT by
Tacis
To: kattracks
Love the headline. How many times does Rush have to say that he did not make a statement about McNabb's race, but of the media's interest in his race as a reason to enhance his on-field prowess? His statement was a condemnation of the media for their treatment of McNabb, not McNabb's performance.
To: kattracks
"Look at that monkey go" got Howard Cossell. Something to do with "build" got Jimmy the Greek. Something to do with a 1948 election got Trent Lott. Let's see if Rush survives. If past is prologue, it doesn't look good.
To: kattracks
From the archives, largely on topic:
January 11, 2003 (Open Line Friday)
Rush: To Rose Valley, Pennsylvania, this is Adam. Adam, hi, welcome and great to have you with us.
Adam: Thank you, Rush. And dont forget to play Hold On in honor of the Atlanta Falcons offensive and defensive lines. [Rush laughs audibly.] Now Rush, I called you a few months ago to get on your case about something, when you put Tom Daschles face on Tom Bradys body, and weve gone through that
Rush: Oh yeah
Adam:
and theyre out of the playoffs now. But, you know, I voted for Bush, and I always agree with everything you say, but youre just wrong about something here. I mean, youre not giving the Eagles any respect once again, and your friend [The Hutch, a former Cowboys player friend of his whom was on the show in the previous half hour, among other things predicting the Falcons would beat the Eagles in the playoffs] didnt. And theyre being underestimated, just as the Republicans were on November 5.
Rush: You know, this is
I have to say something about this because you, youre the second guy whos mentioned this. I got an e-mail note from a guy, I made a comment earlier this week talking about the Eagles, in which I said I just dont trust a football team that has such dependence on the quarterback for everything. And the guy wrote back, and he was right. He said What do you mean dependence on the quarterback? They put in their second-string guy, they win. They put in their third-string guy, they win. What do you mean? McNabbs been out since the middle of November. They still won.
And thats a good point. You know, what I respond to, and I must confess, this is affecting me with the Eagles: Every year the sports media picks somebody to profile seemingly every week. One year, its Keyshawn Johnson. The next year, its Junior Seau. The next year, its Warren Sapp. Well, no, every year, its Warren Sapp. This year, its been Donovan McNabb. Donovan McNabb this. Donovan McNabb that. There are, as the Hutch said, ten other guys on that offense, and you never hear about them
Adam: yeah, I mean
Rush:
it kind of, no, look, Andy Reid, I have to tell you this, you talk about respect, I think Andy Reid is one of the most smart, one of the smartest coaches, patient coaches in the league. Hes not flamboyant. He doesnt toot his own horn. I have a lot of respect for him. Hes from the old Mike Holmgren Green Bay days, with Mariucci and all that.
But youre right. The Eagles, theres no doubting their class. Theres no doubting theyre a great football team. I just have, its sort of like, when the media goes ga-ga, ga-ga, ga-ga over a team, I just have this natural reaction to oppose it, simply because I dont believe in going ga-ga over anything.
Adam: Well, first of all, Michael Vick, Im sorry Mike Vick, has received more attention than McNabb this year. That may be because of McNabbs injuries, but hes certainly more overrated. And lets keep in mind that, no matter how much he dances around and how much something is shown on SportsCenter, a 15-yard gain is a 15-yard gain, and thats often what he gets. And a screen pass to Duce Staley may not look as much, look as beautiful, but its get the same thing accomplished. He throws about 130 yards a game, and yet the media is going ga-ga off
Rush: Noooo
Adam:
well, he did last week.
Rush: 154 yards is his average. He throws 154 yards average a game. But, you know, the thing
My wife has a good point about Vick. Im so lucky to have a wife who loves football.
Adam: You are.
Rush: You dont know
She said, after watching the Green Bay game
she said You know, I have a bad feeling about the Falcons down the line. Not this year so much.
She said, After a while, the offensive line for the Falcons is gonna figure, This guy, their quarterback, can escape anything. So why even block? Why even go to work? This quarterback can get out of all kinds of jams; they cant tackle him. So what the hell?
Now, thats, I would have never thought of that. But if you do go to the line and youre confident that youve got this superman back there who can escape anything, who cares if you miss a block now and then. Who knows? It could be
Adam: Well
Rush: I dont know, but, to me, it was something interesting to think about. I know what youre saying, all this press attention Vick gets, and the reason is because, in terms of being an athlete, theres nobody like him in the NFL.
Adam: Oh, hes great. No doubt, no doubt.
Rush:
literally nobody like him. Vick is what they say about McNabb, if you ask me. McNabb runs in slow motion compared to Vick. Not to put McNabb down, dont misunderstand, but they both deserve attention. I think the Falcons match up well with them, I just do.
Adam: Well, lets keep in mind that, give credit to Vick. Brian Finneran and Shawn Jefferson are not exactly Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson and Kellen Winslow there. So they have to protect a little more, and thats often why he has to run. Most teams have a lot more adequate receivers.
Rush: Yeah, thats true, thats true.
Adam: Rush, I wanted to ask
Rush: Quickly. One more point, then I gotta go.
Adam: I want to read a little poem.
Fans have nothing to fear in South Philly.
Vick and his crew will look just silly.
Well be screaming in delight
When we shut em down Saturday night
In weather entirely too chilly.
Rush: Well, its not going to be that bad. Its gonna be 27 degrees. Theres no precip. But, thats really great, associating poetry with a team you think is going to the Super Bowl, the Philadelphia Eagles.
The fans in Philly have got to be a little embarrassed, oh my god, our guy calls and starts reading a poem. Who is he? Edna St. Vincent Millay? And who is her team?
Anyway, nah, Im just kidding. Adam, thanks much.
To: kattracks
My Prediction: McNabe has a huge day against my Skins on Sunday.
Thanks, Rush!
33 posted on
10/01/2003 1:32:04 PM PDT by
McBuff
To: kattracks
In any event, no matter who's prejudiced, we old-time fans of the CFL's Eskimos would like to thank you all for our years of cheering QB Warren Moon, back in the '80s. ;^)
39 posted on
10/01/2003 1:34:41 PM PDT by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: kattracks
My Jesse Jackssssooonnnn alarm is bouncing in the yellow zone right now. Any bets on how long until it goes red and he opens his mouth?
47 posted on
10/01/2003 1:40:27 PM PDT by
blackdog
("This is everybody's fault but mine")
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