Ignore Muslim anger at your peril, Musharraf warns Bush

The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 09-27-03

[SunStar]

The Muslim world is so full of hatred for the United States that President George W. Bush must do something positive in the region, such as capturing fugitive terrorist Osama bin Laden or restoring order to Afghanistan, warns Pakistan's president.

Hey, jerkoff... That's what we're trying to do!

If this guy falls out of line, the real center of Islamist terrorism is Pakistan...

[caltrop]

I suspect they've equipped their missile systems with a generator. It wouldn't, after all, make a lot of sense to spend millions on a system which all depends on some power company.

I think Musharraf's right on Afghanistan. That war was entirely justified and should be the focus of our efforts. Iraq is, IMHO, a fool's errand which wasn't justified in the first place.

[Dolphy]

Interesting. Hamid Karzei was just here saying that Pakistan was not doing all it could to break the back of Muslim extremism. He did not give Musharraf the benefit of the doubt in understanding his less than aggressive approach.

[servantoftheservant]

Musharraf believes his cards against us are stronger than ours against him.

If he does, he is smoking crack. He is in a distinctly uncomfortable position. The new Afghan government are not fans of Pakistan, since Pakistan created the Taliban (it is not a coincidence the Afghanis were chanting 'Death to Pakistan' when Kabul was taken). On the other side, he has India, a giant antagonist that would not tolerate instability in Pakistan, and would surely invade if the control of nuclear weapons was in doubt. He can't even count on Iran for support, because the Shiites in Iran are not fans of the fanatical Sunni Islam practiced in Pakistan.

Musharraf should be on his knees begging the US for help in propping up his regime and preventing the rise to power of fundamentalists. Because preventing that rise is the only thing keeping the artificially created and utter failure of a nation-state, Pakistan, from being erased from the world map.

[SevenDaysInMay]

Mo'ham', peace be onto him, commands in his Mein Koran that once islam's always inslam's. Submit or die. Stay submitted or die.

Christian missionaries may die for being, killed by devout muslims obeying scriptures, the surahs. Mo'Ham' said to kill and steal and lie.

Once a nation or a person is enslaved according to penalty of death or ruinous taxation surahs in Mein Koran, no liberation from this death cult's belicose control can be tolerated. No changes of mind of the voluntary converts to islam is tolerated. Peaceful muslims are commanded to be killed before even the Jews. Mo'Ham' said so. It is scripture, chapter and verse as Christians might say.

Islam itself could collapse if any conquored muslim nation were enlightened in the Grace of liberty. Koran's surahs' mandates to murder are as clear as they are redundant.

To fight to defeat the islamic nations' governments funding and supplying this terror war against the USA requires our liberating enemy nations and offering them a form of democracy' promise.

Iraq is strategic - in the middle of this islamic transnational cess pool festering for a thousand years after arab invasion and serial exterminations. Afghanistan is also surrounded by orther muslim frontier nations.

The "Street" is by and large illiterate, told what to do by their clerics quoting Mo'ham's commands to murder infedels while submitting to their own totalitary governments and cult leaders.

Devout but otherwise nearly economicially worthless jihadies are getting ready to earn their promised access to some 6 dozen recycled virgins in a wine sodden pair o' dice.

As we finally march against our mortal enemies in the M.E., through northern Africa post-christian Europe is invaded by islamists just as we are invaded through routes from enabling Mexico and Canada.

Islam's outposts within America will always be muslim, commanded by scripture to be so. This 5th column plot is also within Mein Koran's surahs. The Haddith is their battle plan. Conquoring from within is written in islam's scriptures.

We ought not take warning from what the "Street" says, but take action to defeat Islamists wherever we find them. They are at war with us, since 1979 in Tehran. They nhow number in the hundreds of millions. This "Street" is breeding, and has been breeding new jihadies in astonishing numbers. Following scripture, chattle wives need not wait until 16 to personally contribute to the numbers of jihadies. The muslim womb is the islamic trebuchet hurling jihadies into battle to kill peaceful muslims, Jews, Christians, Americans so ISLAM can conquor the world, the dream of the one true prophet, Mo'ham, peace be onto him.

To survive as free thinking people, not subject to 8th Century murderous arab obsessions, we must not only be at war with our proclaimed mortal enemies, but also totally destroy those who follow what islam's scriptures command.

Our political/media elite mistakenly don't think that the Sharia will be "controlling legal authority" over them or their children. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone will no longer apply.

[ellery]

Ah yes, the racist myth of the raging Arab street (or in this case, Muslim) dusted off and trotted out yet again.

The only way to lessen anger at the US is to remove the governments who are deliberately and constantly inciting it.

[epow]

"The Muslim world is in turmoil. There's a lot of opposition to the West and the United States in the Muslim mind because all the political disputes after the Cold War have involved Muslims. Muslims feel that maybe they are being targeted."

BS. Muslims hate us because we have brefiended and aided litle Israel in it's 55-year war against fanatical mulsim terrorists. Fanatical muslims believe the ME and all the other lands once conquered by Islam are sacred to Allah and his followers, and the hated Jews are an intolerable abomination on "Allah's land."

This problem isn't going away in our lifetime, and we had better learn how to deal with it. And politically correct false "solutions" that try to please every liberal Democrat in congress and every gang of thugs in the UN won't get that done.

[LA Conservative]

"Muslims feel that maybe they are being targeted."

Perhaps Muslims should stop giving us so many reasons to target them. Oh but wait, then they wouldn't be the victims, and if they're not the victims, then the Left would throw them out of bed.

[SICSEMPERTYRANNUS]

F*$k em. They aren't doing a very good job making friends with us.

SIC

[joyful1]

Baad, bad, bad things are going to happen in our lifetime.

Deathly, destructive, unspeakable things, coutesy of the pieceful religion

In the end, only one will remain standing...America or Islam. The clue to who it will be...who wants it more.

[lawdude]

What you said, Boris!

[Filibuster_60]

Musharraf should be on his knees begging the US for help in propping up his regime and preventing the rise to power of fundamentalists. Because preventing that rise is the only thing keeping the artificially created and utter failure of a nation-state, Pakistan, from being erased from the world map.

You're missing the point: Musharraf isn't the only Muslim leader for whom weakness is a strength. If the ship starts sinking, he stands a fairly good chance of catching a plane to Saudi Arabia before the s*** hits the fan. On the other hand he knows that we, the US, will then be left with a security problem orders of magnitude greater than that in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In any case, erasing Pakistan from the map won't be a simple matter. Their military is the one instutiion that's been fairly effective at uniting the otherwise fractious nation, and should Pakistan face foreign invasion its people might rally around their common flag to an extent not possible in peacetime. That will be particularly true if the aggressor is the US-Israel-India axis. And don't forget, they have nukes and the means to deliver them, courtesy of the Chinese. It's a win-win situation for Beijing: India and Pakistan blasting each other to the Stone Age, de-facto Chinese domination of South Asia, a US leadership faced with eternal hostility from the region's large Muslim population.

[FreedomCalls]

The U.S. is not going to take military action against Iran, Israel is.

Triggering event? Timeframe?

Report: Mossad, IAF have plan for Iran nuke sites

The German newspaper Der Spiegel reported Saturday that Israel has prepared plans for a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities in order to halt Iran's progress towards attaining nuclear weapons.

Click on the title for more information.

[MissAmericanPie]

Back at cha Musharraf. Muslims havn't even seen us angry yet.

[tubavil]

I'll believe it when I see the 6 smoking craters.

[GirlShortstop]

We can make the Muslims stop hating us:

LOL

[tubavil]

I'll believe it when I see the 6 smoking craters.

[tet68]

all the political disputes after the Cold War have involved Muslims.

Well, there you have it.

[paul51]

Muslims feel that maybe they are being targeted

So how's it feel?