For the GOP, it's More than a Recall

Lt. Col. Gil Ferguson, USMC (Ret.)

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"He's Pro-Choice ..." [Arnold the Catholic, that is]

RR, I kinda think so ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988588/posts

[Rabid Dog]

And that little piece of propaganda didn't come from the Dems either.

[TJC]

I would agree to that. I think a lot of conservitives (like myself) have such a hatred of bustamante we will hold our nose and vote SA. In a republican primary it's TM easy. I will leave the state if bustamante is elected -and I don't want to leave. I would take greyout over bustamante. Hell, I would take Klinton over bustamante. (And I don't like greyout or the rapist very much)

[truthkeeper]

It doesn't matter "how you see it".

Oh, I beg your pardon.
It must be nice having all the answers, isn't it?

[Hildy]

Ditto to that!!!

[djreece]

This thread clearly shows the CA Republican party split:

1. The French wing who can't wait to wave the white flag on conservative principles every election

2. The Semper Fi conservatives who will stand and fight for our state and for our principles (This many Marines can't be wrong! :-)


Bunp for fighting the good fight.

[habs4ever]

I am talking about THIS election, no other, and so the terms under which this author uses to justify his positions are moot.They don't matter a damn when removing Davis is the objective.The Goal is to WIN .

If you also post to me that I am a trash poster, you can bet your ass I will respond.The author wrote a self indulgent ode to his vanity and no more.

[Rabid Dog]

It was a spectacular entrance - too bad he couldn't maintain the momentum in a real poll.

[Bush2000]

Since the first day he was elected to office, nearly twenty years ago, he has led the fight against the very forces and policies that have now badly tarnished this once golden state.

Agreed -- but that doesn't make him electable as governor.

[VRWC_minion]

I don't mean to be contentious, but when has the CA GOP ever gone for the long play?

CA is so far left, I assume a long play is merely entering the race.

Whats more, I think the difference between your's & my view of the electorate is you think they're ideology static, and I think they can be swayed.

Of course they can be swayed. They get swayed each and every day. But when it comes time to vote, they are what they are. You will not get them to move any farther than where they are and currently they are not even in the same universe as you and Tom are.

All it takes is someone willing to unapologetically LEAD. This is what is so frustrating.

Lets look at history. Probably there is no better leader, and pursuader to walk the earth than Jesus Christ. He managed to convince a few people that he was not only right but that he was God. He even had perfect press when he entered Jursalem.

But when it was put to a vote, the people hadn't really moved that far from their personal posistions. That takes time. So the vote went for Barabas over Jesus.

Lets try another. Lets look at Moses. He led the people out of slavery, he showed them that God would supply their daily needs with manna from heaven. When it came time for them to vote, they melted their gold and made the calf to worship.

So, I think you are wrong. I don't believe that a leader can change the hearts and minds of people in the few short weeks that lead up to an election.

[onyx]

McC is his own one man wrecking crew --- he's running against "Pete Wilson" and the GOP.

McC spent a lot of time trashing Pete Wilson yesterday on Roger Hedgecock's radio program. The guy is a bitter, sick, and stubborn, self-absorbed professional pol, who truly believes he *deserves* the governorship.

He's too damn mad at the GOP voters for embracing Arnold instead of him. I don't see how he'll ever drop, he's painted himself into a self-righteous corner, re-stating ad nauseum, his "promise" to stay in the race to its end.

Funny, huh?, that he overlooks his "promise" to Issa to not play the role of the spoiler. The guy has no intergrity at all. Zero, zip, nada.

[pgyanke]

Then why vote in a manner that may get him in office?

The ONLY reason it may get him in office is because of pragmatic Republicans. Vote your principles and guess who wins...

I'll put this in my mom's words... "If everyone jumped off a bridge..." You get the point.

[truthkeeper]

1. The French wing who can't wait to wave the white flag on conservative principles every election

May I borrow that? It's so...appropriate.

[SteveH]

Their votes will decide if conservative principles are worth fighting for or whether most California Republicans are just star-struck groupies.

Now wait just a minute. Who are they calling star-struck groupies?

It's obvious that Moon Unit has the popularity, the looks, the 'tude. Can't we all just stop arguing, and agree on the obvious?

Join Team Moon Unit!!!!!!! Remember: A vote for Mary Carey is a vote for Angelyne!!!!!!!!

;-)

[Rabid Dog]

So far you are the only one cussing and slinging personal insults.

[KellyAdmirer]

LOL, you guys are making my day, McClintock can't take the lead in ANY poll!

I can see there are going to be some very sad McClintock supporters around here in a couple of weeks when reality hits.

[TJC]

We voted Simon over Riordan by a landslide a very sort time ago!

[VRWC_minion]

No, California is the Titanic, and Arnold supporters want us to jump onto another ship that just happens to be sinking more slowly.

Isn't that a rational thing to do ?

[Rabid Dog]

Oh look - you not alone anymore.

[KellyAdmirer]

Simon? The "RINO" who has endorsed Arnold? LOL!