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California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-25 | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: Tamsey
>>> Hopefully Bush and Arnold can stop her (Hillary) from succeeding in California <<<

Every voter in this recall election has that power, too.



241 posted on 09/25/2003 5:48:57 PM PDT by b9
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Well, now you're halfway there. Would, on general grounds, it have been better for conservatives for New York to have a Democrat governor, of the sort of Democrat that would get elected in New York ? I think even you would say no.

Not every politician is a Reagan; Reagans can't be ordered by catalog. You have to decide on those that present themselves, however defective.
242 posted on 09/25/2003 5:50:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: FairOpinion
The Jarvis Foundation endorsed Arnold.

I never said they did not. I don't miss much. Now show me an endorsement which states that he is the best man for the job.

243 posted on 09/25/2003 5:50:54 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Yep... they all like McClintock's platform... but they are also good at math.

35% Republican, 45% Democrat, 15% Independent
244 posted on 09/25/2003 5:51:59 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: ambrose
Marongo Band of Indians reported $ 850,000 TV ads for Tom McClintock.
Posted at 4:15 PM - Sacbee by Daniel Weintraub - Sept 25 th.
245 posted on 09/25/2003 5:54:19 PM PDT by mendedheart
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To: massadvj
I have heard more than enough anti-Arnold invective coming from the McClintock camp. I do not think that McClintock, or conservatives, are being persecuted. This is all the result of a lack of perspective on all sides.

I am reminded of the account of Josephus of the siege of Jerusalem. The Jews killed more of each other than the Romans did. In the end it did not matter who did what to who.

246 posted on 09/25/2003 5:54:49 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: doodlelady
Every voter in this recall election has that power, too.

Good point! And Free Republic would become even more her living nightmare if we all banded together and helped support the Republican frontrunner...

247 posted on 09/25/2003 5:55:36 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
"Now show me an endorsement which states that he is the best man for the job. "

===

Several of them said that.

They are trying to be diplomatic towards Tom, but they are losing patience.

Arnold IS the best man for the job.
248 posted on 09/25/2003 5:57:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Tamsey
Yep... they all like McClintock's platform... but they are also good at math.

So Arnold must be facing terrific pressure from the GOP to leave to race and endorse Tom since then we’ll be in a good position to elect the one candidate that can do what is best for California.
</sarcasm>

249 posted on 09/25/2003 5:58:07 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold IS the best man for the job.

Well good luck to your chosen candidate and I hope those words don't come back to haunt you.

250 posted on 09/25/2003 5:59:50 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
That's what you apparently don't understand...

Some of Arnold's support are from center voters that will NOT vote for a pro-life and anti-gay candidate.

Change the hearts of the VOTERS and then you can offer them more conservative candidates... you can't pull a coup with a candidate running on values that only match about 20% of the electorate.
251 posted on 09/25/2003 6:00:52 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
The Arnold voters would be at least as likely to go to Bustamante, or nowhere, as to McClintock should Arnold quit. These are not all Republicans that Arnold has sequestered and can be delivered on demand to McClintock.
252 posted on 09/25/2003 6:02:07 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Tamsey
I understand it exactly. People who cherish life are not likely to vote for Arnold either. Is the GOP now the abortion party because I must have missed the memo?
253 posted on 09/25/2003 6:08:18 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: buwaya
What makes you think that all of a sudden conservative pro-life voters will switch to Arnold? McClintock will run to the finish and I’m glad he will, who else can conservatives vote for?
254 posted on 09/25/2003 6:10:16 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: ArneFufkin
Native Americans

The federal government has a special responsibility, ethical and legal, to make the American dream accessible to Native Americans. Unfortunately, the resources that the United States holds in trust for them, financial and otherwise, have been misused and abused. While many tribes have become energetic participants in the mainstream of American life, the serious social ills afflicting some reservations have been worsened by decades of mismanagement from Washington. In its place, we offer these guiding principles:

  • Tribal governments are best situated to gauge the needs of their communities and members.
  • Political self-determination and economic self-sufficiency are twin pillars of an effective Indian policy.
  • Private sector initiatives, rather than public assistance, can best improve material conditions in Indian communities.
  • High taxes and unreasonable regulations stifle new and expanded businesses and thwart the creation of job opportunities and prosperity.

We will strengthen Native American self-determination by respecting tribal sovereignty, encouraging economic development on reservations, and working with them to reorganize the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Indian Health Service. We uphold the unique government-to-government relationship between the tribes and the United States and honor our nation&#8217;s trust obligations to them.

We support efforts to ensure equitable participation in federal programs by Native Americans, Native Alaskans, and Native Hawaiians and to preserve their cultures and languages. Republican National Commitee


255 posted on 09/25/2003 6:16:12 PM PDT by Afronaut (Never Support a Liberal.)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Is the pro-life stance the only valuable portion of the GOP platform?
256 posted on 09/25/2003 6:20:16 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: buwaya
I am reminded of the account of Josephus of the siege of Jerusalem. The Jews killed more of each other than the Romans did. In the end it did not matter who did what to who.

What you apparently don't understand is that Arnold is not one of us. He's a liberal.

257 posted on 09/25/2003 6:26:38 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Tamsey
Good point! And Free Republic would become even more her living nightmare if we all banded together and helped support the Republican frontrunner...

...instead of the conservative frontrunner.

258 posted on 09/25/2003 6:27:30 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Afronaut
The jig is up pal.
259 posted on 09/25/2003 6:27:59 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Spiff
Conservatives should be ferocious in stopping Hillary from gaining further power... even if it means cooperating as a coalition with the moderates in the GOP.

260 posted on 09/25/2003 6:30:45 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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