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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
For clarity, the Ohio Constitution states:

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power. (art I pp 4)

and

This enumeration of rights shall not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people; and all powers, not herein delegated, remain with the people. (art I pp 20).

Make of this what you will.

9 posted on 09/25/2003 11:39:51 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: Fudd
For clarity, the Ohio Constitution states:

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power. (art I pp 4)

and

This enumeration of rights shall not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people; and all powers, not herein delegated, remain with the people. (art I pp 20).

Make of this what you will.

The Second Amendment allows for the collective defense by forming a Militia. Militias are citizen’s armies, which are different from professional armies made up of professional soldiers. Check the meaning of Militia. A well-regulated militia is one where a collection of citizens organize for a common purpose, have a plan, have some hierarchy of command as opposed to being a rampaging mob bent of lynching and looting, and are recognized in the real sense as an organization.

More or less the founders thought of men as having the fortitude and means to organize and fight for their rights if trampled upon which is the worst fear of the socialists and despots bent on imposing broader police forces, the modern equivalent of a standing army.

14 posted on 09/25/2003 3:20:58 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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