Darwin or Hitler?

[twittle]

One of the following quotes can be attributed to Charles Darwin in his evoltuionary theories and the other to Adolph Hitler? Any guesses as to who said what?

"Therefore, here, too, the struggle among themselves arises less from inner aversion than from hunger and love. In both cases, Nature looks on calmly, with satisfaction, in fact. In the struggle for daily bread all those who are weak and sickly or less determined succumb, while the struggle of the males for the female grants the right or opportunity to propagate only to the healthiest. And struggle is always a means for improving a species' health and power of resistance and, therefore, a cause of its higher development."

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world."

[theDentist]

At some future time, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races. -Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

And your point?

[thegreatbeast]

Twaddle.

[narby]

Willie Green tries to make a similiar comparison by quoting Marx (or was it Lenin? - somebody) as supporting free trade. Thus making it seem as if a free trader is marxist.

You can trash anybody using such silliness.

[citizenK]

It's a 50/50 proposition if just guessing - but I would say that the first (and longer) quote is attributable to Hitler, and the second to Darwin.

FWIW, the influence of evolution on Hitler's thinking is most likely from his exposure to Schopenhauer (sp), a German philosopher heavily into concepts like the "will to survive" and life's struggles. Apparently, Schopenhauer was one of Hitler's favorite authors to read while he was in the trenches during WWI.

[twittle]

You can trash anybody using such silliness

Perhaps you're right. I'll try and avoid denigrating Mr. Hitler like this in the future.

[keithtoo]

This is a huge point that Evolutionists avoid.

If you are an Evolutionist, you must necessarily be a racist. You may not think the white race is superior, you may think the yellow or black race is superior, but people CANNOT be equal according to Evolution. Not even family to family comparisons can avoid that one is superior and the other is inferrior.

This fact is unavoidable.

[twittle]

You may not think the white race is superior, you may think the yellow or black race is superior

Actually, Darwin thought that blacks were somewhere between "white people and baboons."

[RightWhale]

Both of them would receive nastygrams from the Human Resource Dept if they worked in any modern corporation. As would vast numbers of their contemporaries.

[John Valentine]

People ARE not equal. This is so patently obvious, only a fool would fail to realize it.

All a liberal (in the true sense, not the present sense) democracy says is that people are to be TREATED equally BEFORE THE LAW.

The notion that people actually ARE equal is a source of never ending confusion and misguided policy, and should be stamped out if possible.

[dmz]

Perhaps you're right. I'll try and avoid denigrating Mr. Hitler like this in the future
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yup, damn that nasty Darwin for proposing a scientific theory. The evil that scientific theory has wrought is twiddle compared to what Hitler actually did. /sarcasm

[ClearCase_guy]

It's the difference between Equality and Egality. The American Revolution was all about Equality (it turned out well, by the way). The French Revolution was all about Egality (see how well that works?).

[Serb5150]

This morning I saw some cats that like Hitler.

[Salgak]

My favorite Marx quote:

Say the magic woid, the duck comes down, you win one hundred dollars. . .

[John H K]

Evolution isn't a religion or a moral philosophy; it's a science.

Whether Darwin was a racist, or a satan-worshipping child molester, is irrelevant, just as it would be irrelevant to the validity of General Relativity if it turned out through some discovery that Einstein was a satan-worshipping child molester; Energy would still equal mass times the speed of light squared, and the speed of light would still be constant.

[Soliton]

There is no such thing as an "evolutionist" only scientists.

Have you ever read "On the Origin of Species"?

It is nothing but common sense applied.

[twittle]

just as it would be irrelevant to the validity of General Relativity if it turned out through some discovery that Einstein was a satan-worshipping child molester;

The difference is that Darwin based his beiliefs on his racist philosophies. Even if Einstein was a child molester, Relativity would not be based on that.

[twittle]

Have you ever read "On the Origin of Species"?

You're leaving out the second part of the book's title, "The Preservation of Favored Races."

[4himinct]

Hitler used Evolution to Justify Racism. He called Jews close to pure ape because of his beliefs that he was of a superior civilization. Nazis used Aryan to mean "a Caucasian of non-Jewish descent."

Species Blood Mixture
Nordic(blond, blue-eyed) Close to pure Aryan
Germanic(brown hair, blue-eyed, or less desirable, brown-eyed) Predominantly Aryan
Mediterranean (white but swarthy) Slight Aryan preponderance
Slavic (white but degenerative bone structure) Close to Aryan, half-Ape
Oriental Slight Ape preponderance
Black African Predominantly Ape
Jewish (fiendish skull) Close to pure Ape

—from The Hitler Movement, p. 107

"If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough, and often enough, the people will believe it."
- Adolf Hitler

"People are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one."
- Adolf Hitler
http://www.creationevidence.net/racism.shtml

As a former atheist/evolutioinist, you have to be an bald- faced liar(par for the course), and I was, to deny that racism is a product naturally from Darwinism.

God never taught ANYONE was better than anyone else, chosen (Israel) or not............all are equal and all are sinners.

ONLY Darwinism teaches racism; the Bible rejects it. It is what man DOES amd only ONE thing man IS (Sinner) that calls for God's wrath-not what race he is, as race is not in Scripture-only tribes(groups of cultures), tongues(language), nations(borders).

One blood-red-for all. All came from one man-Adam, all are related and all are one race, just different shades........not exactly a Darwinian thought.

And Hitler was a Darwinist, fully justified by his religion........like Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, and all of the rest.

His(Creator)
Bob Z.

[dmz]

So the mis-application of a theory is the fault of the one who proposed the theory? That's silly.

No one would blame Christ for the wrong done in His name, would they?