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Why Middle Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke
MSNBC ^
| Sept. 9, 2003
| Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi
Posted on 09/25/2003 8:46:04 AM PDT by Baby Bear
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This book supports a theory that two-income spenders have made inflation a problem for everyone. The two problems with the book is it offers too few solutions to this problem and its little attention on the tax burden.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:46:05 AM PDT
by
Baby Bear
To: Baby Bear
Good catch!
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:50:21 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Ray has gone bye-bye Egon, what have you got??)
To: netmilsmom; Baby Bear; yall
Just look through the classifieds of your local daily to see all the "stuff" that folks are selling as they try to hang on to the essentials in our "recovery."
It's really sad.
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posted on
09/25/2003 8:54:29 AM PDT
by
lodwick
(I fear for our Republic.)
To: Baby Bear
THe middle class - or what is left of them - are going broke becasue they
pay too much of their income in taxes! This article is just another attempt to obscrue the issue: it is the middle class that pay 60% of the taxes in this country, not "the rich."
To: netmilsmom
I heard their interview on NPR. They have a solution, but it will make their message a bitter pill to swallow for most.
While times are good, cut out all the extras and go on one income. Cut out the cable. Cut out the internet. Cut out vacations and live like their grandparents did.... well within their means.
I got the feeling that these two are stealth conservatives... or realists.
To: Baby Bear
With Dad Bush's re-election it was, "It's the economy, stupid!"
With son Bush's re-election it is, "Where are the jobs? India!? China!?"
The old timers used to say, "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on ME!"
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:02:13 AM PDT
by
Ff--150
(we have been fed with milk, not meat)
To: lodwick
Suddenly my life doesn't suck so bad.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:06:35 AM PDT
by
natewill
(Start the revolution NOW!)
To: Baby Bear
Is the author required to supply a solution?
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:06:56 AM PDT
by
stuartcr
To: Baby Bear
She mentioned in an interview that credit card companies are charging outrageous interest rates, but that can be regulated by Congress if Congress has the will to do it (influential banking lobby).
She also said that parents want the best education for their children so they tend to buy expensive houses they can't afford in "good" school districts. Wonder how they'll feel about their investment when NCLB designates their schools as failing. A well-regarded high school in my county was designated as failing because special ed students flunked their exams. Is that going to make property values drop?
As for childcare, she said that it costs approximately the same about of money you would spend for one year at a state college and that many public schools prefer that children to go to daycare so that they'll be "ready" for kindergarden.
It's a vicious cycle.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:09:19 AM PDT
by
ladylib
To: Baby Bear
They hadnt realized just how tight their budget really was until they missed a mortgage payment three months after James lost his job..Ruth Ann was more financially sophisticated than most women.
They are not the very young, tempted by the freedom of their first credit cards. They are not the elderly, trapped by failing bodies and declining savings accounts. And they are not a random assortment of Americans who lack the self-control to keep their spending in check.
They ran out of money three months after ONLY her husband lost his job? What about his unemployment? That really sounds financially sophisticated and it does sound like there was a severe financial discipline problem.
Note to young couples: 1. Your savings should cover 1 year minimum of expenses. 2. Drive a used Camry instead of a new Lexus SUV. 3. Cook at home, you don't need to eat out every night. 4. Credit cards are not free money; would you borrow money from the Mafia for 19% to get the latest clothing line from the GAP? 5..Don't cry to everyone because you failed to plan.
The American worker is now forced to pay for teenagers' babies, the elderly's medicine, and now our peers bankruptcies? Its nice to know my kids can't go to private school because you CHOSE to drive two new cars, go on vacation every year, and generally live beyond your means.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:10:22 AM PDT
by
opticoax
To: Baby Bear
Taxes and credit cards - failure to discipline both governement and personal spending - these are the two things that hurt us the most. And, by the way, whatever happened to saving on a regular basis and leaving those savings alone - don't take it to Best Buy every other month.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:10:42 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: AD from SpringBay
It's hard to save money when you're barely gettin' by every month as it is.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:14:34 AM PDT
by
natewill
(Start the revolution NOW!)
To: Baby Bear
-- if only they were more savvy about financial matters.--
That pretty much sums it up. People live beyond their means and/or live day by day rather than planning ahead. The old wisdom of saving your pennies for a rainy day is lost on people nowadays.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:14:42 AM PDT
by
fml
To: Baby Bear
It's fascinating that these gals recommend vouchers as part of the solution. I know a street in my town where houses on one side of the street go for $40,000 more than the other side -- because one side is in a very good school district and the other side isn't!
To: natewill
If you're getting by you can save something. I'd rather have $10 saved than no dollars saved.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:17:20 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: stuartcr
Is the author required to supply a solution? No. Neither are any dumbocRAT senators, representatives or any of their comardes in crime, i.e., the national media.
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:18:03 AM PDT
by
Arrowhead1952
(I am ashamed the dixie chicks are from Texas!)
To: Baby Bear
It will get progressively worse until the government is forced to step in and forgive personal debt.
We don't have to worry about the national debt. Since we have hedged it with a BIG military those foreigners who hold our treasury bonds will have to WRITE IT OFF or go to war.
BUMP
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posted on
09/25/2003 9:18:48 AM PDT
by
tm22721
(May the UN rest in peace)
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: Baby Bear
little attention on the tax burdenYou nailed it right there.
Yeah, some folks are spendthrifts and accumulate 30K in credit card debt. But look at the tax burden in 1960 v. 2003. Many factors play into this, but the tax bill can't be ignored.
Meanwhile, the root cause of the problem, gubmint, is offering "solutions".
Right.
To: Ff--150
You must be one of those people who wants to work in a factory and make shirts and shoes for a living.
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