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To: JerseyHighlander
What is disturbing? The Hutterites practice the communal model while the Amish are community oriented. No Amish guy is going to walk into your house in the middle of the night to use "communal" property. The Mormons are more Hutterite than Amish through their purposely designed involvement in each other's personal lives.
In all the world only America provides a framework where such diverse interests can co-exist side by side. Churches, temples and mosques manage to share city blocks here without nary a person feeling he has to blow himself up. It's all about Freedom.
28 posted on 09/22/2003 11:55:03 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Veterans: the oath doesn't end at short boot time. If you didn't mean it you shouldn't have joined.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
You don't see the Jeffersonian racialist "yeoman farmer" ideal scaled up to a Communitarian level in the concept of having certain religious groups controlling farm production to limit the ability of immigrants to acquire jobs in this country? I agree with the reduction of farm subsidies, but that's a corporate vs. citizen owner/operator/farmer argument, whether the citizens are Southern Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Anglicans or whatever.

And what of this:In a few generations we'll have all the baby-makers and lettuce pickers we'll ever need.

That is Orwellian, and uses religion as a manipulative tool of control. What fundamental difference will there be in 40 years between baby-making farm wives of Anabaptist communes and babymaking farmwives of Catholic Church communities? They would both be made to serve the pampered princesses of the consumerist class, who won't reproduce. This is better then our current fate of Third World invasion? No, it's the same result, except the color of the underclasses' skin pigment is different.

On that note, I support Rep. Tancredo's stances by and by, and want to see a rational immigration policy come into law, funded and vigorously enforced. Bringing in anti-immigrant rhetoric reminiscent of the Anti-Irish rhetoric of 2 centuries ago is a discredit to the public argument.

33 posted on 09/23/2003 1:07:01 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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