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Clark's bars: This general might not have the right presidential stuff
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | Sunday, September 21, 2003 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 09/20/2003 10:23:39 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy

Jack Kelly: Clark's bars

This general might not have the right presidential stuff

Sunday, September 21, 2003

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark has thrown his helmet into the ring. He has improved the Democratic presidential field by entering it, just as he improved the Army by leaving it.

 

 

Jack Kelly is national security writer for the Post-Gazette and The Blade of Toledo, Ohio (jkelly@post-gazette.com).
   

 

Clark is a brilliant man, and a brave one. A Rhodes scholar, he was decorated three times for heroism as commander of an armor company in Vietnam.

"Those of us who knew him as a captain thought the country would be short-changed if he didn't rise to very high rank," said a retired Army colonel who was a student of Clark's when Clark taught at West Point.

But Clark's kindergarten teacher probably noted that he doesn't play well with others.

Clark "is able, though not nearly as able as he thinks, and has tended to put his career ahead of his men to the point of excess," said a defense consultant well acquainted with the Army's senior officers. "He is opportunistic and lacks integrity. He will be an absolute menace if he gets into a position where he can exert influence on the Army because he lacks true vision and is prone to be vindictive."

Clark "regards each and every one of his subordinates as a potential threat to his career," said an officer who served under him when Clark commanded a brigade of the 4th Infantry Division in the 1980s. An officer who served under Clark when he commanded the First Cavalry Division said he was "the poster child for everything that is wrong with the general officer corps."

Clark doesn't get along terribly well with superiors or with allies either, which led to his premature departure as commander of NATO.

Clark was NATO commander when the Kosovo war began, and bears much of the responsibility for President Clinton's decision to try to bomb Serb dictator Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo. Clark argued that after a few days of bombing, Milosevic would fold his tent and slink away. When the Serbs didn't budge after months of bombing, Clark lost Clinton's favor.

As the war dragged on, Clark advocated the use of ground troops. This put him at loggerheads with Gen. Henry Shelton, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and with Gen. Eric Shinseki, chief of staff of the Army, who thought this was a terrible idea. These generals faulted Clark for getting America into an unnecessary war and for having done a poor job of preparing for it.

"NATO did not expect a long war," wrote former Clinton national security aide Ivo Daalder. "Worse, it did not even prepare for the possibility."

The conduct of the war drew unprecedented criticism from Clark's predecessor, Gen. George Joulwan, and a quiet rebellion by subordinate commanders.

"Clark found his control over ongoing operations eroding," wrote retired Army Col. Andrew Bacevich, now a professor at Boston University. "Rather than the theater commander, he became hardly more than a kibitzer."

What may have triggered Clark's early departure from NATO was a confrontation with the British general who was to command NATO peacekeepers. After a Serb surrender had been negotiated with the help of the Russians, Clark ordered Sir Michael Jackson to parachute troops onto the airport at the Kosovar capital of Pristina, so that NATO would hold it before Russian peacekeepers arrived.

Jackson refused. "I'm not going to start the third world war for you," he told Clark, according to accounts in British newspapers.

Shortly after the confrontation with Jackson, Clark was told his position as commander would end two months early. Neither Shelton nor Defense Secretary William Cohen attended his retirement ceremony, a remarkable snub for a four-star general.

Clark read Milosevic wrong, helping to provoke the Kosovo war, which he then fought badly.

He picked up where he left off in his second career as a television kibitzer of military operations. As an analyst for CNN, Clark harshly criticized the war plan for Iraq devised by Gen. Tommy Franks, the Centcom commander, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Clark turned out to be completely wrong.

It says something fascinating about the Democratic field that this failed general is the class of it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2004; clark; dems; jackkelly; wesclark; wesleyclark
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Jack Kelly usually has the only thing worth reading in the PG.
1 posted on 09/20/2003 10:23:39 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Clark "regards each and every one of his subordinates as a potential threat to his career,"

That would be us.

2 posted on 09/20/2003 10:26:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
But Clark's kindergarten teacher probably noted that he doesn't play well with others.

Well, throw world peace out the window.

3 posted on 09/20/2003 10:28:16 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
"He is opportunistic and lacks integrity. He will be an absolute menace if he gets into a position where he can exert influence on the Army because he lacks true vision and is prone to be vindictive."

Don't let him near the interns, and for Gods sake, keep him away from that red button!

4 posted on 09/20/2003 10:29:49 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Sounds like Clark would be a worse case of loose-cannon-on-deck than Clinton, if such a thing were possible! No wonder Clinton backs him. They are equally stupid and arrogant Rhodes Scholars, without a shred of common sense or decency.
5 posted on 09/20/2003 10:30:56 PM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of (legal) immigrants.)
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To: concerned about politics
Not me, I am AWOL from this guy's Goat (Roast)
6 posted on 09/20/2003 10:31:36 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (In 1895 there just two automobiles in Ohio - and they collided)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Jackson refused. "I'm not going to start the third world war for you," he told Clark, according to accounts in British newspapers.

Forget our British allies. He gets elected (not), they're outta here!

7 posted on 09/20/2003 10:34:20 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
He has improved the Democratic presidential field by entering it, just as he improved the Army by leaving it.

Maybe we'll get lucky. As long he has a history of screwing everything up, maybe he can nuke the Democrat party while he's at it.

8 posted on 09/20/2003 10:36:21 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Very good commentary by Joe Farah, "Why Wesley Clark is dangerous":

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34685
9 posted on 09/20/2003 10:36:58 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Can there be any doubt that the Clintons don't expect this guy to implode before the election, making it necessary for Hillary to step up and rescue the party?
10 posted on 09/20/2003 10:37:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
When we see someone who has as insane a look in his eyes as Wesley does, we should believe our eyes.
11 posted on 09/20/2003 10:42:56 PM PDT by per loin
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Clark only needs one type of right stuff, e.g., money and someone to endore him. He has no money.... But he has the Clintons! This is the Wrong Stuff and the entire Country will feel the pain should Bill & Hill swing this deal!!!
12 posted on 09/20/2003 10:45:52 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
The obligatory Wesley Clark "It's All About Me" Image


13 posted on 09/20/2003 10:49:14 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: WaterDragon
You are correct. Clinton did all the wrong things for all the wrong reasons. Clinton's biggest interest seemed to be writing himself a place in history.

Clark is an egomaniac with such a loose grip on reality that he thinks he should be president. He is a lot more dangerous. If he got elected, can you imagine how screwed up any military campaign would be. He would micro-manage the whole thing from the White House, and he is no military genius.

14 posted on 09/20/2003 10:52:03 PM PDT by USNBandit
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
"he's opportunistic and lacks integrity"

OH GREAT .. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED - ANOTHER CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE .. NO THANKS!!
15 posted on 09/20/2003 11:02:02 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America - The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
He is pretty scary but not half as scary as Hillary! Queen of MEAN! Mistress of Darkness!
16 posted on 09/20/2003 11:04:03 PM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, the Hildabeast, Mistress of ALL Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: USNBandit
Clark is an egomaniac with such a loose grip on reality

Well, people say the end times are here. Clark gets elected, and they'd be right this time.

But, fear not. Seriously. Bush will win.
People don't like drastic change, especially in the middle of a war against people who killed 3000 Americans on our own soil.
People feel secure with Bush. We'll do just fine. We may even pick up a few more seats.

17 posted on 09/20/2003 11:07:44 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
General Clark-Clinton
18 posted on 09/20/2003 11:13:32 PM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: USNBandit
"If he got elected, can you imagine how screwed up any military campaign would be."

ROBERT NOVAK, 1999

"Members of Congress who, during their spring recess, met in Brussels with Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander, were startled by his bellicosity. According to the lawmakers, Clark suggested the best way to handle Russia's supply of oil to Yugoslavia would be aerial bombardment of the pipeline that runs through Hungary. He also proposed bombing Russian warships that enter the battle zone. The American general was described by the members of the congressional delegation as waging a personal vendetta against Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. "I think the general might need a little sleep," commented one House member."

yitbos

19 posted on 09/20/2003 11:27:50 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Those who control language control minds)
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To: bruinbirdman
From edgar online, who has pages on him:

here

Any financial/investing types care to decipher for us? I haven't a clue if this list indicates involvement or merely stock ownership .. except for the Sirva Inc listing, which is the registration documents:

Here's the list of management and directors:

Sirva

20 posted on 09/21/2003 12:03:14 AM PDT by STARWISE (W: the Right Man when we needed him the most ... our blessing from God. Thank you, God.)
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