[Recourse]

You know who else agrees with Pat that free trade is bad? The lunatic left. Here's a list of your fellow travelers who protest against the WTO & GATT:

Tom Hayden (former head of SDS and a Marxist)
Ralph Nader (Head of Green Party)
AFL-CIO
Socialist Workers of Britain

As Pat became more isolationist he also becomes more anti-free market. Watching Pat, it is pretty clear that he can't be against immigration and opposed to free trade without also becoming more and more sympathetic to subsidies and various social welfare programs (after all trade barriers are subsidies to domestic businesses).

Pat has recently advocated caps on executive pay, boosts in unemployment benefits and deplored the "harshness" of the free market. Are you on board with this?

[FITZ]

opposed to free trade without also becoming more and more sympathetic to subsidies and various social welfare programs

What you write doesn't make sense --- we have subsidies for US farmers which is making farmers in Mexico lose their farms and immigrate to the USA. Going back to a time when there were tariffs, and each country worked within it's own economic frame would not lead to more welfare programs. We've got more welfare programs than ever, 35% of the Mexican immigrants end up on welfare programs and this is well into the free-trade era. What free trade is doing is destroying the Mexican people, who then must come here to survive and because they lack skills they either end up on welfare or take jobs from low-skilled Americans ---- welfare is needed to provide for the NAFTA displaced workers. We've got thousands of them here in this one town.

[Tokhtamish]

You are clearly losing your grip.

Every working American who stares at the ceiling at 3am wondering what in God's name is going to happen to his life understands what free trade is doing to this country. The man on the street is right and the starry eyed libertarian is dead wrong.

If you are going to use free trade to disposses whole waves of American workers, don't be surprised when the dispossesed demand a European level social safety net. There are no atheists in the trenches. There are no libertarian free traders on the unemployment line.

[ninenot]

Yup. All those lefties are wrong all the time, and Pat agrees with them SOME of the time, so thus, Pat's wrong all the time, too. Great.

On the proposition that ANY Government owes its first allegiance to ITS OWN CITIZENS, this Government has failed--except in producing adequate military hardware.

[bimbo]

Are you on board with this?

Yes, I am on-board with Buchanan. As long as his detractors have no answer to his statements except to compare him to the assholes on the Left, or assert their usual ad hominems, I'll stand by his assertions.

Now let's hear your solutions to America's problems; I'll see who I can compare your ideas to.