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Patrick J. Buchanan Examines "The Slow Awakening of George W."
Washington Times ^ | 09-17-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 09/17/2003 7:06:29 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: dogbyte12
And, I can show a stock that has gained and claimed that I bought it!

Ummm... do you want to go look at the time of my original SATC post and see where the stock was then? Then check where it is now. I'm doing OK, thanks.

221 posted on 09/17/2003 10:47:16 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Tokhtamish
And the earful he got from all those manufacturers.

Harley-Davidson handed him a four-page memo describing the Chinese methods by which they simply prevent HD products being sold in PRC.

ANd they gave it to him while he was on a plant tour at HD!

Not exactly diplomatic--but it got the point across.

222 posted on 09/17/2003 10:47:20 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: belmont_mark
You got that right about duped_dawg
223 posted on 09/17/2003 10:47:35 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Tokhtamish
Technology constantly changes the nature of employment. There is nothing that will change the immutable law. And protectionism and tariffs only make our economy suffer.

Suppose the United States placed a tariff on imported textiles that were less expensive than domestic textiles. There would be four basic costs to the economy:

1. Textile buyers will have to pay more for their protected U.S.-made textiles than they would have for the imported textiles.

2. Jobs will be lost at retail and shipping companies that import foreign-made textiles.

3. Jobs will be lost in any domestic industries that suffer from retaliatory tariffs. The point most anti-free traders seem to forget is we don't operate in a vacuum. We hurt them, they hurt us.

4. The extra cost of the textiles gets passed on to the consumers. That means you and I pay more for products when we don't have to. That's money out of our pockets.

225 posted on 09/17/2003 10:50:46 AM PDT by Recourse
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To: BMiles2112
I think the number $54K includes bennies.
226 posted on 09/17/2003 10:51:13 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: RLK
BINGO!

When our troops came home for WWII, they were supplied with jobs. The boom that occurred after that should be regarded as one of the wonders of the world. It isn't. Instead, as you say, our leaders have done their best to destroy those principles.

People can dump on me for saying this, but I believe this borders on treason as much as anything else would. The people who are destroying US jobs to send them overseas should be put in prison.

Yes, I'm serious.
227 posted on 09/17/2003 10:51:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Buck72
Pat's right about this. We need to level the playing field by using tarrifs and lowering the burden of regulations and taxes on American companies.

Pat's been right about Trade and Immigration for at least a decade, and the only RINO response is usually: "well, he's a racist, homophobe, protectionist, anti-Semite, who can't be elected, and that's why he's wrong on Immigration and Trade."

228 posted on 09/17/2003 10:52:00 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: Theodore R.
Willie, what I meant to say is that the Constitution does not address economic issues in Article II (the executive branch). Those are mainly confined to Article I (the legislative branch), as you so listed.

Your efforts to deny the role of the Executive Branch in the development and implementation of policies and regulations that affect and direct the economic affairs of our nation is truly lame.

ARTICLE I, Section 7.
Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated,...
Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him,
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ARTICLE II, Section 2. The President shall ...
...have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties
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ARTICLE II, Section 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient;

Similarly the trade treaties and economic proposals submitted by the Bush Administration for consideration by a GOP-controlled Congress are extremely lame. But I can see why you believe he has no influence since the spineless puppet hasn't bothered to use his veto power even once.

229 posted on 09/17/2003 10:52:47 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
It's going to be much harder to annoy paleo-cons now that your lack of credentials have been exposed.
230 posted on 09/17/2003 10:52:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: dogbyte12
What politician has the guts to say that if you aren't a college graduate, chances are that your future is going to be extremely bleak in a generation. If you have an IQ of 85, your ability to produce anything will not be cost efficient and any job you get will be basically charity.

I actually see the opposite happening. Many of the jobs being lost are highly skilled positions such as computer programmers, technical support reps, system analysts, etc. These are the jobs moving to India, Singapore and elsewhere for a fraction of the cost it takes to hire somebody with the same skills. Meanwhile, it seems that every restaurant I go to is looking for waitstaff, dishwashers, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I'm very disturbed by this scenario also.

231 posted on 09/17/2003 10:53:20 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (220.4 (-79.8) Earning back my youth one mile at a time)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well we've lost 2.7 million jobs. Something isn't working. I'm not going to blame it all on Bush because these policies were not his brainstorm, even if he has done nothing to reverse things. This just happens to be conformity to the body of thought of those in power in business and government these days. It would be hard to make the claim that this is exclusive to Bush, but he'll be the one blamed in November next year. He better wake up to that fact.

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And if hew wakes up to that fact, he will do just enough to get suckers to reelect him, then return to his old patterns of doing nothing. He's the kiss of death.

233 posted on 09/17/2003 10:53:57 AM PDT by RLK
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To: bimbo
Pat's been right about Trade and Immigration for at least a decade,

He has?? He was saying the Japanese were going to destroy us economically over a decade ago. He said after NAFTA we were done for. A decade later our economy is as strong as it has ever been while Japan's has been in a decade-long decline.

234 posted on 09/17/2003 10:54:43 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Theodore R.
Buchanan gives us problems without solutions, his implication being that he would make a better President. The real problem is that Buchanan is also a Big Governement guy. He doesn't think that government itself is the problem. "Free Trade" is a mind-numb Republican mantra but the Republicans look good ONLY in comparison to the Democrats. Read Paul Craig Roberts.
235 posted on 09/17/2003 10:55:18 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: EternalVigilance
Do not give up your day job to attempt a career in speech writing.

Your revision lacks the sense of rhythym and of flow necessary for stirring speech. Its inclusion of the propping "obviously" informs the reader that the phrase following it can be ignored as old news. The overbalancing of the two clauses dulls the sentence to an academic level. In short, it sucks.

236 posted on 09/17/2003 10:56:54 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Lazamataz
It's going to be much harder to annoy paleo-cons now that your lack of credentials have been exposed.

Surely some of your co-workers are going to be watching the game, right? Are you as nervous as I know they are?

237 posted on 09/17/2003 10:57:18 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: RLK
I don't argue with that, because like I said, these policies are prevailing thought in this day and age.
238 posted on 09/17/2003 10:57:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Texas_Dawg

Actually only a small percentage of freepers make donations. Free Republic is the prime grass roots conservative website, it represents the man on the street so to speak, rather than what pundits say.

I know you keep the WSJ editorial page close to parrot what various "conservative" pundits say, but that is not reality. Like it or not, far more conservatives all over the US are in the Ralph Hall or John Conally mold rather than the Dick Armey mold.
239 posted on 09/17/2003 10:57:24 AM PDT by JNB (I am a Catholic FIRST)
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To: steve50
While the Constitution does not mention promotion of the general welfare, it ALSO does not mention life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

You think the Founders just wasted all that ink?

And BTW--the Constitution did not mention income taxes until a fraudulently-"passed" 16th showed up, in the early 1900's.

The system of tariffs worked just fine until Wilson showed up in office.
240 posted on 09/17/2003 10:57:45 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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