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Patrick J. Buchanan Examines "The Slow Awakening of George W."
Washington Times ^ | 09-17-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 09/17/2003 7:06:29 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: Texas_Dawg
It's nice to meet a true demagogue such as yourself. Stop berating others about their "lack of economic knowledge" when you yourself are lacking.
201 posted on 09/17/2003 10:34:58 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: dogbyte12
Here you go, Dogbyte.

If you actually read my posts instead of counting them, you might be a little happier and a little wealthier too.

202 posted on 09/17/2003 10:35:25 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: RockyMtnMan
Stop berating others about their "lack of economic knowledge" when you yourself are lacking.

I quit bothering to take you seriously after that stupid "demand without supply" answer to supply-side economics. You might want to learn what is meant by "supply-side" economics. Then you might understand why Reagan was and nearly all conservatives are fans supporters of it.

203 posted on 09/17/2003 10:37:33 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Texas_Dawg
And what do you do again?

More than you obviously. To focus on FR enough during "work" to be able to read through posts, respond 26 times, refresh constantly, reading more, means you aren't working. I am sure you have a "job". Santa Claus told me so.

204 posted on 09/17/2003 10:37:34 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Texas_Dawg
I think they and their beloved unions should be crushed

Yeah, those lazy union firefighters and those lazy union policemen and those lazy union paramedics…. Perhaps when you are in need of their services they will prove you correct.

205 posted on 09/17/2003 10:37:58 AM PDT by thtr
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To: Texas_Dawg
Lenin's analyses of the weak spots of the West were very perceptive. This does not make me, or any other true Rightist who wants to correct these weak spots, a Marxist. In fact, in the geopolitical grand scheme of things, I am the anti Marxist, whereas you are the appeaser.
206 posted on 09/17/2003 10:38:04 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: dogbyte12
More than you obviously. To focus on FR enough during "work" to be able to read through posts, respond 26 times, refresh constantly, reading more, means you aren't working. I am sure you have a "job". Santa Claus told me so.

See #202.

207 posted on 09/17/2003 10:38:25 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: dogbyte12
Sure. If he's paid to post.

Notice that they are calling for aid from all the other paid-to-posts.

Some are likely Bush paid-to-posts, others RNC, others special interests and government interests.

You have to recall that FR is an important informer for the internet public and of great influence. It has been gang-raped by those who aren't sufficiently fit to function as lobbyists.

This has largely happened after the lawsuits.
208 posted on 09/17/2003 10:39:32 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: DoughtyOne
I lived through the greatest boom period in history, from about 1947 through the late '60s. All the economic and social principles that created that boom have declared invalid through unending specious argument and implemented government action.
209 posted on 09/17/2003 10:39:37 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Texas_Dawg
As I've said before, I would rather juggle chain saws or go to Las Vegas, then hand over one dime to the stock market boys

This probably explains why you're so unhappy. Do you keep your money in socks under the bed?

You haven't a clue. I got out of the stock market years ago. Millions found out the hard way that the stock market is totally manipulated and tilted towards the house.

Me? I've put my money in real-estate, thanks. And I sleep much better.

You want to play in the stock market? Have at it. Be my guest. After all, without you, the fat cats go broke.

LOL!

210 posted on 09/17/2003 10:39:38 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: RockyMtnMan
Lord knows I am officially considered wealthy - I get reminded of this fact every April 15th!
211 posted on 09/17/2003 10:41:04 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Spirited
You have to recall that FR is an important informer for the internet public and of great influence.

Not really. It has about 15,000 members according to that last Freep-a-thon tally. That's pretty light. I can assure you I'm no GOP lobbyist. I don't think the GOP would be so dumb to waste their time "arguing" with paleos who hate the GOP and Bush and will never vote for them anyway. I just like entertaining myself by annoying paleo-morons.

212 posted on 09/17/2003 10:41:38 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Recourse
Protectionism distorts markets, hurts importers, kills jobs, and sows distrust between nations. But the foremost reason governments should refuse to impede free trade is that it is theft. It steals from the many to enrich the few. It deprives individuals of the right to control their own property -- to choose for themselves where to buy the products they want and to sell the goods they own.

It is, indeed, free trade that steals from the many to enrich the few. It directly converts wages and salaries of dispossesed workers into the bonuses and shareholder equity of those at the top. It consigns whole batches of non and semi skilled workers to permanent underclass status and is creating a future in which it will simply not be possible to earn a decent living above the age of 55.

Free trade is an historical accident, the ideology of whatever happenned to be the dominant exporter of the time. Pre 1945 America never had any use for it. It was only the 1945-1973 America that was free trade. Similarly England was free trade in its Victorian heyday. But the failure to shift to protectionism when economic rivals emerged prevented British industry from having a strong enough capital base to meet the demands of the First World War. If England had followed Joseph Chamberlain's wise advice and shifted to protectionism, maybe England would have had a strong enough industrial base to equip its own army instead of going in hock to the US (and that is a lunacy behind libertarian free trade. the assumption that since the world will always be at peace you can let whole important chunks of your economy go overseas. that is why, every nation has a protected, subsidized agricultural sector because you can't outsource food production.). It is not, your passionate, romantic convictions aside, in any way a moral imperative.

Your vision of pure free trade is one where governments, frankly do not do their jobs in protecting the well being of their country. It is in China's interest to pursue a mercantilist policy to build the industrial and technological base it will need to challenge the US ten years from now. It is in every nation's interest to see to it that their people have jobs so the leaders do not lose their jobs. So your vision of free trade is a fantasy world, like "free love", that collapses in the face of self interest.

213 posted on 09/17/2003 10:42:10 AM PDT by Tokhtamish (Free trade ! Cheap Labor ! Cheap Life ! Cheap Flesh !)
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To: Texas_Dawg
There was an interesting article in the September 8 issue of the New American ( http://www.thenewamerican.com ) that
Discussed Gulf War II profiteering.

I guess the John Birch Society is Greedy too.


214 posted on 09/17/2003 10:42:56 AM PDT by VxH
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To: Recourse
Reagan did not consider 'free trade' as swapping production factory jobs for consumer cheap underwear. That's why supporters were 'Reagan Democrats'.

PRESIDENT REAGAN,  AMERICA THANKS YOU FOR INDUSTRY TARIFF PROTECTION

Harley cruises toward 100
BY RICK POPELY
Chicago Tribune

CHICAGO--Harley-Davidson is cruising in the fast lane as it celebrates its 100th birthday, an easy rider in a bumpy economy filled with potholes.

In the midst of a recession, Harley's motorcycle sales and revenue rose to record levels in 2002, continuing a 17-year string of record growth.

This year, demand for 2003 models decked out with 100th anniversary trim is such that dealers can charge more than suggested retail price for the bikes.

Harley is an American success story in an industry dominated by Japanese brands. The company, with help from timely tariffs, resurrected itself from the manufacturing junk pile 20 years ago and captured the hearts and dollars of Baby Boomers, a generation that rejected American automobiles in favor of imports.

215 posted on 09/17/2003 10:44:27 AM PDT by ex-snook (Americans needs PROTECTIONISM - military and economic.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You are reading my posts, responding to them, getting in a tit for tat with other posters. You are earning your salary then by doing what? Is it market research?


Here is a graph of your productivity. I "work on wall street too". See, I can post graphs! And, I can show a stock that has gained and claimed that I bought it!

See, I bought Neorx, a promising bio stock at $3.74 this morning, and it's up to $4.50. 22% in one day. I am a tycoon I tell ya. I just post here when I am not rubbing elbows with the captains of industry!

216 posted on 09/17/2003 10:44:46 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: VxH
I guess the John Birch Society is Greedy too.

Awesome. Did they have any good "how to make a tin foil hat" articles in there?

217 posted on 09/17/2003 10:45:46 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: RLK
Well we've lost 2.7 million jobs. Something isn't working. I'm not going to blame it all on Bush because these policies were not his brainstorm, even if he has done nothing to reverse things. This just happens to be conformity to the body of thought of those in power in business and government these days. It would be hard to make the claim that this is exclusive to Bush, but he'll be the one blamed in November next year. He better wake up to that fact.
218 posted on 09/17/2003 10:45:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Lazamataz
At a minimum, he / she / it is a self appointed agent provacatuer. Worst case, an operative for one of the enemies of the USA who is profiting from the naive, utopian, globalist, duped majority of my fellow corporate managers who decide consistently in favor of the ideas promulgated in such rubbish as that written by Fukuyama and (T.L) Friedman. Commie_Dawg will tell you that he / she / it disaggrees with the latter, but the screed is right in line with that of Mr. Getpluggedintothefastworld (aka NEP-2).

Mark
219 posted on 09/17/2003 10:46:00 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: LIBERATENJ
That's a load of BS from Walter Wiliams. Don't be fool enough to be duped.
220 posted on 09/17/2003 10:46:40 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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