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Cavuto: Only Half the Story
Fox News Channel ^ | 09/03/03 | Neil Cavuto

Posted on 09/04/2003 12:32:17 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Teacher317; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; Chancellor Palpatine
Ergo, if you would "practice independent thought" and some basic grammar...

"Quit thinking with the heard ..."
"If you can't see the danger in Cavuto's liberal rational ..."
"And I shutter to think ..."

Grammar? Heck, I'd settle for some simple spelling and the ability to understand homonyms.

81 posted on 09/05/2003 5:32:21 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: aculeus
That's not how he tells it. He was drafted, won a metal, watched his friends blow up and witness atrocities committed against civilians.

He hopes God will forgive him, and finds little comfort in legalism that Hitler declared war first, when he knows damn well the President elect, the fascist anglophile FDR, was itiching for a grandiose war.
82 posted on 09/05/2003 5:51:24 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: chmst
Freedom starts at home, which is why its important that conservatives not let liberals define the parameters of success and failure in the 'war on terrorism.'

Closing the borders, wholesale investigations of the trillion dollar central intelligence aparatus, returning to the principals of a well-armed citizenry and a decentralized government, and fighting wars only on the basis of whether they protect American intersts is the basis of conservative national security policy, not fighting wars to make Iraq a welfare-state the Democrats could be proud of.
83 posted on 09/05/2003 5:56:17 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: ultima ratio
And at what cost at home did we defeat these 'entities' as you say?

"People like me are wusses"

I am not the one advocating that we send boys and girls off to Iraq to fight protect me from terrorists. As a conservative, it is my responsibility not the states.

Off topic, but what do you think General Douglas MacArthur meant by this?

"The powers in charge keep us in a perpetual state of fear keep us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real."

- General Douglas MacArthur

August 17, 1957
84 posted on 09/05/2003 5:59:34 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: BlueLancer; JohnGalt; Teacher317; dighton; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; ...
He was drafted, won a metal, watched his friends blow up and witness atrocities committed against civilians.

Nominated for monthly grammar/spelling/coherence sweepstakes.

85 posted on 09/05/2003 6:07:41 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Dyslexia wrecks me for the medium, but you should see me on a bar stool.
86 posted on 09/05/2003 6:09:38 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: Pokey78
Along the same vein, here is an email I got from my son in Mosul this morning.

hey Dad...that's pretty cool...yes, i am with the 413th out of lubbock, but we are attached to the 431st out of little rock Ark....and yes, that event happened right here where we are living now...i happened to be on a mission the day of the event and i didn't get to participate in it, but from what i hear the kids really enjoyed it...winning hearts and minds....well, thanks for sending the article or post...so i guess the news back home is giving a lot of negative press huh....that's too bad, because unlike a lot of other areas in iraq, the north(mosul, ninevah province in general) is really showing a lot of improvements....you could probably dare say up to pre-war standards or exceeding them in some areas...well, i hope all is well on the homefront...i just wanted to respond to the post....thanks again.... your son Jeff

His email concerns this post from yesterday. Post on Civil Affairs Operation in Mosul

87 posted on 09/05/2003 6:16:19 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: BlueLancer; JohnGalt
won a metal,

Gold, Silver, or Bronze?

watched his friends blow up and witness atrocities committed against civilians.

Oh Yeah, The big shock that every young man has upon discovering that war aint't a John Wayne movie. Only if they are unfortunate enough to be a participant. Maybe your uncle would have FELT better about the "rightness" of WWII if he had been cleaning up after the atrocities committed upon civillians in Akron, OH or Sacramento, CA. So which would you rather have had happen John? Nobly fighting against invasion like the Russians, or taking a can whoop ass to other places?

Your answer will be enlightening. Civillians get killed on a pretty regular basis when you are having armies do their thing in your own territory.

He hopes God will forgive him, and finds little comfort in legalism

Legalism? John, you've gone off the deep end.

88 posted on 09/05/2003 6:16:48 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: JohnGalt
He hopes God will forgive him, and finds little comfort in legalism that Hitler declared war first, when he knows damn well the President elect, the fascist anglophile FDR, was itiching for a grandiose war.

Gratis history/vocabulary lesson: "president elect" refers to a candidate who is elected but not yet inaugurated. In 1941 FDR was serving his third term as president.

89 posted on 09/05/2003 6:18:11 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: L,TOWM
He was a drafted medic, so I guess his perspective, that whole 'first do no harm thing' would cause him to have an introspective view rather than free himself to simply accepting the gubmint's propoganda.

I don't know for sure but I think he came to the same conclusion General MacArthur did upon reflection:

"The powers in charge keep us in a perpetual state of fear keep us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real."

- General Douglas MacArthur

August 17, 1957

90 posted on 09/05/2003 6:21:09 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: ladtx
Thanks for the update.
91 posted on 09/05/2003 6:22:00 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Apologies, it was a rhetorical flourish that sounded nice, but thanks for the correction.
92 posted on 09/05/2003 6:22:38 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: JohnGalt
the fascist anglophile FDR

FDR admired the English?


93 posted on 09/05/2003 6:22:51 AM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
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To: aculeus
Glad to give the update. As you can tell we're very proud of what our son is doing. He's over there repairing what his older brother helped break in the first days of the war. Our family is sort of a microcosm of the whole war.
94 posted on 09/05/2003 6:26:21 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: rdb3
Loved 'em apparently without regard for the nation he was elected to serve.
95 posted on 09/05/2003 6:33:29 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: JohnGalt
>>>>>>He was a drafted medic<<<<<

What is it that a medic needs to have God forgive of him?
96 posted on 09/05/2003 9:22:27 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: JohnGalt
He is arguing that the news of dead American soldiers should be juxtaposed with stories of a liberated Iraq.

No, he is arguring that ALL of the facts should be reported, not just the negative.

97 posted on 09/05/2003 11:36:01 AM PDT by alnick
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To: alnick
What facts?

What is the logical connection between running water and a terrorist bomb killing a soldier?

There is none; its merely a juxtaposition to create the image that its a 'fair trade.'
98 posted on 09/05/2003 11:38:08 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Vichycons-- Supporting Endless War Abroad; Appeasing the Welfare State at Home, Since 2001)
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To: ultima ratio
Do you know the difference between apples and oranges? We also haven't found the cure for cancer. Is this Bush's fault also?

Yes, to these types it is Bush's fault, unless the cure for cancer is discovered during Bush's presidency, in which case it will be Bush's fault that anyone was spending their time on such a liberal idea such as finding the cure for cancer.

99 posted on 09/05/2003 11:38:43 AM PDT by alnick
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