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Another 9-11 date with death: Jane Chastain decries agonizing death planned for Terri Schiavo
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, September 4, 2003 | Jane Chastain

Posted on 09/04/2003 12:14:25 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Theodore R.
I think I actually heard something like this before, on a Dobson radio program.

But of course the key is to teach all of our children what marital love really is. We try to make this an active discussion in our home when we can, particularly with our 15 year old daughter. Real love, we point out to her, is when you give up sleep, the last brownie, make a sacrifice and never complain about it, forgive, apologize, whatever the occasion brings us the opportunity to point out.

41 posted on 09/04/2003 2:13:37 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: FormerLib
Your girls are a treasure and so openly reflect the love and focus on Christ in their parenting and homelife.
Thanks for your kind words.


42 posted on 09/04/2003 2:19:47 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: strela
There was no dnr, no living will, nothing at all to ever indicate her wishes except her husband's word that she once said - while watching a movie with various inlaws - that she wouldn't want to be on life support.

He failed to mention this for years after her collapse, only bringing it up after collecting over a million dollars in award money as a result of a medical malpractice trial, during which he gave heartfelt testimony that he loved his wife deeply and wanted to care for her for the rest of his life but lacked the funds with which to do so.
43 posted on 09/04/2003 2:20:54 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
that she wouldn't want to be on life support.

Most of us who say this are referring to a ventilator. I doubt that any of us would be watching TV and say, sure, go ahead and starve me to death if I am in anyway incapable of caring for myself.

44 posted on 09/04/2003 2:24:55 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
You are absolutely correct. Let's say for the sake of argument that she did make that supposed statement - just the fact that the court has allowed it to be extrapolated to mean starvation is horrific and offensive.

45 posted on 09/04/2003 2:43:12 PM PDT by agrace
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To: representativerepublic
When someone asks for help, says momma, they are not.....repeat not......in a vegatative state!!!!!!!! Let Terri tell me she wants to die.......not this maniac of a husband of her's!!!!!!!
46 posted on 09/04/2003 2:54:22 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: strela
ok, if this ever happens to you, and you cry for help and call for momma, then , to hell with you, we will say your are in a vegatative state and wanted to die....we will let you! God, you do not know the defination of a vegatative state , so just shut up!
Do I , go ahead ask me!!!
47 posted on 09/04/2003 2:59:00 PM PDT by countrydummy
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BTTT
49 posted on 09/04/2003 5:07:50 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: kimmie7
Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo

I love your tagline!

50 posted on 09/04/2003 5:30:21 PM PDT by katnip
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To: agrace
Good post at #33.

These people mouthing 'death with dignity' slogans remind me of a recent news article about Terri Schiavo, wherein the patently biased reporter characterized Terri's parents as 'insisting on keeping her alive,' while her husband was described as 'willing to let go.'

Such pretty phrases, 'death with dignity' and 'willing to let go' !! Why, you'd think the fourteen day ordeal of dying from dehydration was a gentle slipping away into oblivion! You'd think the 'letting go' would not mean forcing a living, sentient being to die a slow and agonizing death, but would simply be a passive act, noble, even virtuous!

As you point out, nothing could be further from the truth.

51 posted on 09/04/2003 6:28:01 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!
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52 posted on 09/04/2003 6:47:39 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: representativerepublic
Mrs. Schiavo's parents should let their daughter go with dignity and not keep her artificially alive. They will never be able to have any kind of real relationship with their daughter ever again. IMO, they are hung up on their son-in-law not collecting the life insurance money when she does die. Yet, he has said time and time again that he would donate ALL of the money to charity if he ever received any insurance settlement.

Mr. Schiavo simply wants to let his wife die with dignity THE WAY SHE WANTED. That is what he promised her when she was still alive and well. He is only carrying out his promise.

There is a sworn affidavit from a nurse who formerly cared for Terri, who stated that Michael Schiavo used the word "bitch" when referring to when was Terri finally going to die. He wants her to die before she uses up any more of "his money". You know what's funny? Terri's folks offered what was left of Terri's medical trust fund if Michael would only divorce her and let them take over.

Let's hope that you have an ironclad "directive" in the event that you can't speak for yourself. Otherwise someone might just figure you'd want to die from dehydration and starvation while fully conscious.

Have a nice day...

53 posted on 09/04/2003 7:34:31 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (This cow is independently owned and operated)
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To: Theodore R.
Someone needs to start a service warning young women to be very careful whom they marry. They must shun the psychopathic, sociopathic men, or face consequences like what this unfortunate woman is facing. Many of these young women think that they are going to "reform" these kinds of men, only to find that they are helpless to bring about a change in their life-styles. Often, such women pass up perfectly good men because they want someone "exciting" and "different."

Great points. Now how do you sort out a normal person from someone who is pathological? Most are accomplished liars, who actually believe their own lies. If they are not completely estranged from their families, the family members you'll meet are enmeshed in their own psycodrama and will support this emotional vampire.

A young person, who perhaps has had an unhealthy role growing up, such as emotional caretaker for a parent, is at high risk. Your internal warning system goes off and you heed it. You instinctively avoid them as "not quite right". Not always with people conditioned at an early age to having their boundaries violated. They are insidious and will find your buttons and push them.

Avoiding them can be impossible. Terri had a weight problem through high school that damaged her self asteem. No doubt Michael zeroed in on it. I don't think in this instance it has to do with reforming bad boys, or girls for that matter; the perpetrator creates the role that they can provide the missing piece in their victim's lives.

JMO

54 posted on 09/04/2003 8:03:31 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (This cow is independently owned and operated)
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To: representativerepublic
So who in the Schiavo family put you up to post here?
Honestly, the man hasn't allowed here to get her teeth cleaned in all the years she has been in the hospital. He won't allow flowers or gifts delivered to her. She is denied many medical exams. She hasn't even had a pap exam in 12 years.
Oh, but sure, that's love. What a guy.Oh, and he didn't change his mind until the money came in from the courts. Funny, huh?
And the fact that he is waiting to get married to another woman who has had his baby.
Bullcrap.
55 posted on 09/04/2003 8:21:01 PM PDT by sfRummygirl (ok, stop laughing)
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To: representativerepublic
I live in Florida, and I call you a liar.
56 posted on 09/04/2003 8:47:55 PM PDT by sarasmom (Pray for Terri Schiavo.)
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
Hyacinth! My favorite show!
57 posted on 09/04/2003 9:03:25 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: JohnHuang2
This is what we have come to in this country.
58 posted on 09/04/2003 9:03:57 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: representativerepublic
Who the hell are you? Mike Schiavo's bloodsucking lawyer?

59 posted on 09/04/2003 9:07:52 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: katnip
Thank you very much.
60 posted on 09/04/2003 10:28:57 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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