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IRS Workers Wrong Almost Half The Time
The Associated Press

Posted on 09/03/2003 7:07:39 PM PDT by JonathansMommie

WASHINGTON (Sept. 3) - IRS centers established to help people prepare their tax returns gave incorrect answers - or no answer at all - to 43 percent of the questions asked by Treasury Department investigators posing as taxpayers.

The investigators concluded that half a million taxpayers may have been given wrong information between July and December 2002.

Service varied widely by state, with some of the best in the Northeast and some of the worst in the Midwest and Plains.

Auditors were given correct answers to 57 percent of their tax law questions during the course of the study. Less than half, or 45 percent, of the questions were answered correctly and completely. In 12 percent of the cases, the answer was correct but incomplete.

Internal Revenue Service employees gave wrong answers to 28 percent of the questions. Twelve percent went unanswered, as taxpayers were told to do their own research in IRS publications. In 3 percent of the attempts to get questions answered, the auditor could not get any service at the center.

The IRS disputed the results. Using the raw numbers gathered by Treasury investigators, the IRS recalculated the error rate and ignored any instance when a taxpayer was denied service or told to do his own research. Of the questions answered, they calculated that 67 percent were answered accurately.

``We recognize that an accuracy rate of 67 percent for tax law service is inadequate,'' Henry O. Lamar, the IRS commissioner overseeing individual tax returns, wrote to the investigators.

The auditors said they had a better chance of getting a correct answer when IRS employees walked them through relevant material and asked probing questions.

The questions most commonly answered incorrectly dealt with the earned income tax credit, education credit and dependents.

``The IRS' failing grade here is unacceptable,'' said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. ``It's especially discouraging that the IRS is often getting wrong basic answers to questions about the EITC and the child credit, which benefit low-income taxpayers.''

In a sign of improvement, Treasury investigators went back undercover for two months during the height of this year's tax-filing season and found the number of incorrect answers dropped slightly. The auditors got incorrect answers to 25 percent of their questions.

The number of correct answers went up to more than 70 percent, as employees at the taxpayer assistance centers stopped instructing taxpayers to find IRS publications and do their own research. The IRS banned the practice in January.

The Treasury Department's inspector general started investigating the error rate at the nation's 400 taxpayer assistance centers when a 2001 study showed that auditors making anonymous visits got incorrect or insufficient answers to 73 percent of their tax law questions.

Since then, the IRS has increased training on topics that elicit the most questions and the most incorrect answers. The agency has also given employees more time to brush up on tax law topics during the day. Employees must pass certification tests before answering taxpayers' questions on certain topics.

The slow improvement shows ``it will take time before the impact of additional training and managerial oversight will be reflected in the accuracy rates,'' Treasury investigators concluded.

The IRS hopes to improve its track record and answer 80 percent of the questions correctly this year, and 85 percent correctly next year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: incometax; irs; taxreform

1 posted on 09/03/2003 7:07:39 PM PDT by JonathansMommie
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To: JonathansDaddie; BlindedByTruth; netmilsmom
PING
2 posted on 09/03/2003 7:08:23 PM PDT by JonathansMommie (I'm A Registered Freeper...And I Have A Sticker That Say's I Freeped Today.)
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To: JonathansMommie
Being wrong 50% of the time is worse than being wrong 100% of the time, since it implies that the 'wrongness' is totally random.

If the stooges were wrong 100%, you could simply reverse their edicts and be correct.

But now that we have a Republican president and Republican Congress, I'm certain they will reform the IRS. /sarcasm

3 posted on 09/03/2003 7:10:04 PM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: JonathansMommie
"IRS Workers Wrong Almost Half The Time"

"Almost" is the operative word here!

4 posted on 09/03/2003 7:10:48 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: JonathansMommie
So presuming you got a wrong answer from the IRS itself, how well would this protect you, if at all, from an IRS audit?

Unfortunately, I'm guessing not at all...
5 posted on 09/03/2003 7:13:02 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
So presuming you got a wrong answer from the IRS itself, how well would this protect you, if at all, from an IRS audit?

If I remember correctly, it will not prevent an audit, but if you document the date and name of who gave you the advice it can be used as defense during an audit. Not that that's much consolation.

6 posted on 09/03/2003 7:18:15 PM PDT by Randjuke
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To: JonathansMommie
This is simply incredible.

I'm astonished. I can't believe they got it right 57% of of the time.
7 posted on 09/03/2003 7:18:21 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: JonathansMommie
I'm astonished. I can't believe they got it right 57% of of the time.

Considering the volumes of tax laws, etc, 57% almost seems better than expected. Congress is to blame for this. Congress keeps making exceptions for their "donors".

8 posted on 09/03/2003 7:21:55 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: JonathansMommie; Coop
OMG. They can't figure out EITC, and I am supposed to rely on them for advice on AMT?
9 posted on 09/03/2003 7:26:58 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: JonathansMommie
One question: Who in their right mind would go to the IRS for an explanation of tax policy? It's like a chicken waddling over to the man with the ax and asking for advice on how to avoid the ax.
10 posted on 09/03/2003 7:30:04 PM PDT by yooper
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To: swilhelm73
Since you are "guessing", I presume you are not paying attention.

Federal courts have ruled, repeatedly, that relience on advice from the IRS does not exscuse one from IRS penalties.

11 posted on 09/03/2003 7:30:57 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: JonathansMommie
Nothing new. About 15 years ago I called 3 times with the same question and got 3 different replies. All 3 were wrong.
12 posted on 09/03/2003 7:44:23 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Mulder
Not as long as Daschle can fillabuster the Senate. Republicans need 60 senators.

Flat Tax is the answer.

13 posted on 09/03/2003 7:46:15 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Judge not, lest ye be judged. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.)
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To: JonathansMommie
Can you blame them? Has anyone here ever seen the Internal Revenue Code? Image several bibles stacked up.
14 posted on 09/03/2003 7:50:21 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Licensed-To-Carry
At least the auditors were able to get through for help. Years ago, I used to call a specialized hot line that was open from 2 to 4 every afternoon. It was busy from 2 to 4 every afternoon, and the tape was on from 4:01 to 1:59 the next day, every day.
15 posted on 09/03/2003 7:53:38 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: JonathansMommie
INTREP
16 posted on 09/03/2003 9:01:04 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: JonathansMommie
Saying that one expects slow improvement over time is a pipe-dream. Congress has shown the ability to add complications much faster than the IRS can absorb and assimilate them. I agree with the poster who said that congress, not the IRS, is to blame for this mess. However, I disagree with the poster who said that a flat tax is the answer - for a LOT of reasons. The FairTax is a much better proposal. This link explains why better than I can.
http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/confess.html

17 posted on 09/18/2003 5:24:56 AM PDT by phil_will1
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